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57. This all from Putin using his power over tramp

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Wed Nov 19, 2025, 08:28 PM

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Putin has the goods on trump and is telling him to get this done or he exposes trump's secrets.
Trump is fretting Epstein and this is another delay.
Trump will hold back any military aid unless Z agrees to this piece of shit.
Ukraine won't agree and may have to decide it's time to stop hitting just military and industrial targets.
Force Putin to use "stupidity" and make trump look like a total ass to the world.
Then see what happens when the rest of the world stops providing goods to the US and closes air space to Americans.
He really does want to start WWIII.

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Exclusive: Ukraine expected to give up land, some arms under US peace plan, sources say [View all] muriel_volestrangler Wednesday OP

No shit! Ray Bruns Wednesday #1

Why do I believe the unnamed sources have the initials DJT? Ray Bruns Wednesday #2

Yup. sheshe2 Wednesday #32

Diddling Donny can't stay out of Putin's pants. Safe as Milk Wednesday #3

What if Putin's Bubba? BadgerMom 22 hrs ago #73

Ukraine doesn't have to anything the US says. It is a sovereign nation. NotHardly Wednesday #4

Ukraine wants a security guarantee from the US. maxsolomon Wednesday #15

Russia had an agreement with Ukraine and had agreed republianmushroom Wednesday #21

Like many big powers they renege on their agreements...nt mitch96 Wednesday #24

I think Ukraine is disinclined to accept security agreements, as the... LudwigPastorius Wednesday #22

Quite true. However, NATO membership may be unobtainable. maxsolomon Wednesday #23

Russia opposed Ukraine joining NATO because it would have blocked them from taking the land for the future pipelines. cstanleytech Wednesday #33

Most of the NATO nations couldn't give a stuff what Russia wants. n/t Emrys Wednesday #48

Russia invaded Donetsk precisely to stop NATO extending membership to Ukraine. maxsolomon Wednesday #53

Russia's rationales for its invasion vary almost as windingly as a Trump diatribe. Emrys Wednesday #61

Helpful post, maxsolomon 13 hrs ago #83

I can't immediately find a map of the situation in 2023, but if it helps, Emrys 6 hrs ago #84

Their last security guarantee when giving up nukes didn't hold up so well SamuelTheThird Wednesday #26

Yes, I am aware. maxsolomon Wednesday #28

Please research blue-wave Wednesday #35

I don't need to research as I already knew about it. maxsolomon Wednesday #37

I'm saying blue-wave Wednesday #38

US security assurances are only as good as the word of the President karynnj Wednesday #40

What would Russia get in the deal then? Polybius Wednesday #59

What will Russia get? blue-wave Yesterday #70

Ok, so the war doesn't end then n/t Polybius 21 hrs ago #75

it ends the way the Russia war in Afghanistan ended lapfog_1 20 hrs ago #76

That could take years Polybius 20 hrs ago #77

then it will take years... lapfog_1 20 hrs ago #78

This is misunderstood. Ukraine DID NOT receive Security Guarantees WarGamer Wednesday #46

Correct. Emrys Wednesday #49

Ukraine needs to be in NATO or have signed legal defense GUARANTEES from US, UK, Germany, Poland and France. WarGamer Wednesday #50

Over the past few years, Ukraine has signed bilateral security agreements with a number of countries Emrys Wednesday #62

The only agreement that would blue-wave Yesterday #69

If you want to split hairs over the blue-wave Yesterday #72

All I have to say is, I get spanked for asking a question but, gab13by13 Wednesday #5

"linking this right wing talking point" - this is news, FFS muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #6

Posting 2 unnamed sources for the article because of the sensitivity, gab13by13 Wednesday #10

I don't think you understand what news is. muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #14

Hopefully, Ukraine will say "fuck that shit" Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #7

"give up land, some arms under US peace plan...... yea that ain't gonna happen.. nt mitch96 Wednesday #25

FU, Putin and drumphf! Slava Ukraini! electric_blue68 Wednesday #8

Again, like before, I say BULLSHIT!! bluestarone Wednesday #9

Handing Putin victory from the abyss of defeat CanonRay Wednesday #11

After all this, now Putin is allowed to take land from Ukraine just to go away and leave them alone FakeNoose Wednesday #12

Wasn't this same plan rejected a few months ago? (nt) William Seger Wednesday #13

The US should butt out and F*ck off. sinkingfeeling Wednesday #16

There's absolutely no way. LudwigPastorius Wednesday #17

trump kissing Putin ass. republianmushroom Wednesday #18

Why should they give anything up? They didn't start the war. Putin should have to pay them to rebuild the country. Vinca Wednesday #19

Rewarding Russia for its invasion? What a plan. Dave Bowman Wednesday #20

Trump cannot stop blowing Pootie Skittles Wednesday #27

Trust the Russians and any agreement they sign. republianmushroom Wednesday #29

3 Words: Fuck That Shit! Nictuku Wednesday #30

When will the world ever learn? blue-wave Wednesday #31

I approve this plan......if it includes arrests and war crime trials for a number of Russians. cstanleytech Wednesday #34

LOL, why wasn't such a deal worked out with Iraq and Kuwait? RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Wednesday #36

US Security Guarantee Nasruddin Wednesday #39

Nope. Not the right move. Russia go home and expletive you and your horse. twodogsbarking Wednesday #41

And what weapons and territory will Russia give up in exchange? WestMichRad Wednesday #42

Just say NO Bayard Wednesday #43

Am I wrong in thinking this sounds more like a demand that Ukraine surrender to Russia? slightlv Wednesday #44

Budapest Memorandum 2 paulrevere2018 Wednesday #45

F this "peace agreement." One sided BS. Drumpf has been in bed with Vlad for at least 9 years. Evolve Dammit Wednesday #47

This pisses me off. AllyCat Wednesday #51

As usual, Dump bends over for Putin mdbl Wednesday #52

Russian attitude..what's mine is mine .what's yours is negotiable! Playingmantis Wednesday #54

this is bullshit. ananda Wednesday #55

Be quiet piggy! bronxiteforever Wednesday #56

This all from Putin using his power over tramp 3825-87867 Wednesday #57

Reuters, old and established as it is, hasn't been the most reliable source on developments in Ukraine in recent times Emrys Wednesday #58

Be quiet piggy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Wednesday #60

Trump and Putin JPK Wednesday #63

I hope Zelenskyy tells them to fuck off and Europe backs him ChicagoTeamster Wednesday #64

x2 Sam I Yam Yesterday #71

screw that SaydiTom Wednesday #65

Bullshit plan designed to appease Putin. He'll take the win and keep going. Martin68 Wednesday #66

What about that rare earth minerals deal trump wanted from Ukraine?? IcyPeas Wednesday #67

Stick it up your asses, Trump and Putin. Efilroft Sul Wednesday #68

Ukraine, Don't Do It! Can't trust US anymore Bread and Circuses 21 hrs ago #74

Give'm an inch and they'll take a mile. no_hypocrisy 20 hrs ago #79

I'd say Krasnov's status a a Russian asset "bothers" America as much as his being an "alleged pedophile." Miles Archer 20 hrs ago #80

One word answer Botany 19 hrs ago #81

"would be" expected nuxvomica 19 hrs ago #82