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4. How much power does Hamas really have at this point?

Tue Jul 22, 2025, 02:03 AM

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Are there even any operational targets left at this point in Gaza? What is Israel protecting itself from now?

I’m not saying Hamas doesn’t have power or that they’re not a threat to Israel, but I doubt the Hamas that conducted the October 7th attacks is what exists now.

As someone that used to consider myself pro Israel, and believe they had an absolute right to retaliate for October 7th, it’s clear this has gone well beyond attacking terrorism. It’s about destroying Gaza’s people, it’s civilian infrastructure, and starving them, and making any surviving residents lives so miserable they are driven to flee.

I used to argue it’s not genocide, but maybe I’ll split hairs and just call it ethnic cleansing, because at the minimum that’s what has been going on for sometime now. Hell, Trump, Netanyahu and their ardent followers like Fetterman (well on Israel), advocate as much. Forced relocation is a policy goal for this Israeli government.

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Shootings, Devastation, Hunger: Israel Fails to Address Gaza's Power Vacuum [View all] cliffside Tuesday OP

It is Hamas who has refused to allow any new governance structure. SunSeeker Tuesday #1

Death camps iemanja Tuesday #3

no. the issue is Hamas. stopdiggin Tuesday #6

I suggest you do a bit of reading on current events iemanja Tuesday #7

I have been following stopdiggin Tuesday #12

What do you imagine Hamas could do now iemanja Tuesday #15

surrender. turn themselves, and their stock of munitions and weapons, over .. stopdiggin Tuesday #19

How would that change Israel's plans? iemanja Tuesday #21

And until they do, it's perfectly fine to continue with the mass murders and starvation? AloeVera Tuesday #18

Agree with you that many Palestinians are "subjects" or call them hostages, starving the "subjects" cliffside Tuesday #22

On Hamas and cease fire proposals iemanja Tuesday #8

Appreciate you posting the link, for some reason the thread does not advance in GD so posted it ... cliffside Tuesday #24

so... myohmy2 Tuesday #9

seems to be just fine as far as Hamas is concerned stopdiggin Tuesday #11

c'mon... myohmy2 Tuesday #16

Doesn't absolve Israel. It is responsible for the human acopalypse it created. AloeVera Tuesday #20

How much power does Hamas really have at this point? fujiyamasan Tuesday #4

They ambushed and killed 7 IDF soldiers in June. maxsolomon Tuesday #13

Israel has created a situation where people will die en masse now. AloeVera Tuesday #17

Yes, I'm still blaming Hamas. They started this war. They can agree to a cease fire at any time. nt SunSeeker Tuesday #25

I see. N/T AloeVera Tuesday #26

Israel has a plan iemanja Tuesday #2

no way... myohmy2 Tuesday #5

Israel planning for a power transition equals land grab. Beastly Boy Tuesday #10

precisely! I caught that little gem too. "Power vacuum" ..... stopdiggin Tuesday #14

How Netanyahu Prolonged the War in Gaza to Stay in Power cliffside Tuesday #23