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84. You are right. So will this really change much?

Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:06 AM

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We should not underestimate the significance of Vance secretly flying to Murdoch's estate for a meeting right when all the powerful billionaires were turning against Trump and right when Trump was threatening a big lawsuit against the Murdochs.

There really are only two possibilities here, I believe:
1) Trump sent Vance on a mission to quietly patch things up with Murdoch.
2) This is the time that Theil and his fellow billionaire tech boys make their move to push Trump aside.

I think the probability of 1) is practically zero. So it really becomes a question whether Theil , Murdoch, Vance, Musk and the others have the guts to confront Trump.

There is a big problem, however. It seems very unlikely that Trump could be removed through impeachment. And let's say that the billionaires convince the Republicans in Congress to impeach and convict. In that case, it might be tactically smart for the Dems to block that, forcing the Republicans to live with Trump. But the Dems never think strategically, so that isn't going to happen.

The other way to force Trump out is through the 25th. But Trump has loaded the cabinet with people who are just as evil and demented as he is, so I can't see them acting.

I'm not sure how Theil gets over this hump.

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JD Vance flew to Montana for secret meeting with Rupert Murdoch and Fox News executives [View all] BumRushDaShow Saturday OP

Trump is: Botany Saturday #1

They got their laws passed. They no longer need trump. Bluetus Saturday #14

My guess is that he will step down for "health reasons" soon. Botany Saturday #24

He will never voluntarily walk away from the grift JoseBalow Saturday #45

They will present him with the alternative not fooled Saturday #49

They can try, but he ain't giving it up willingly. JoseBalow Saturday #53

Right. But they can force him into a side room Bluetus Saturday #64

I think we've been there for most of his two terms. Gore1FL Sunday #83

You are right. So will this really change much? Bluetus Sunday #84

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They might be able to buy him out. It would have to be a very hefty offer however. Irish_Dem Sunday #76

Part of him agreeing to back off is he gets the billion dollar plane for himself. lark Sunday #82

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I dunno, he seems pretty tired lately and not that interested in the details of the job LymphocyteLover Sunday #80

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Mafia Don Deep State Witch Saturday #2

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Second time snowybirdie Saturday #3

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I've heard stories of the filthy rich buying Dr. T Saturday #26

Used to live in Montana. Yes, it is getting warmer up there. Farming is changing and changing fast. Attilatheblond Saturday #29

Not only land Hornedfrog2000 Sunday #74

There are a lot of homesteading survivalist groups in Montana FakeNoose Saturday #59

I think Musk showed up as well? flamingdem Saturday #65

Seem to recall he did drop into the series of meetings in the northwest part of MT Attilatheblond Saturday #67

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Thanks for the update! flamingdem Monday #89

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Both Irish_Dem Saturday #6

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Perhaps persuade the WSJ to recant the story zorbasd Saturday #31

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That was always Thiels plan.... alittlelark Saturday #10

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That was MontanaMama mahatmakanejeeves Saturday #30

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Probably Why They Wanted Tester Out Deep State Witch Saturday #51

I remember ..in fact, I thought this was a repeat post. Deuxcents Saturday #55

OHI do believe that Vance wants the Presidency so bad, that he can taste it. riversedge Sunday #79

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No Matter What Happens, Chasstev365 Saturday #28

It is a good thing, but the damage is done. There are no safeguards any more. travelingthrulife Saturday #41

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I don't mean to ruin a perfectly good story, but this happened in June. mahatmakanejeeves Saturday #36

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Ty 4 the correction, good evening to you too questionseverything Saturday #60

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