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BumRushDaShow

(157,285 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:30 PM Jul 19

JD Vance flew to Montana for secret meeting with Rupert Murdoch and Fox News executives

Source: The Independent

Saturday 19 July 2025 05:49 EDT


JD Vance took a quick day trip to Montana Tuesday afternoon to speak to right-wing media mogul Rupert Murdoch and his son Lachlan, who is the chief of both Fox News and its sister corporation News Corp., which publishes the New York Post and Wall Street Journal.

According to the Associated Press, the vice president’s secret meeting also included several executives from Fox News, the conservative cable giant that has largely carried Donald Trump’s water and helped staff up the president’s current administration.

A source familiar with the trip also confirmed to The Independent that the vice president spoke to both Murdochs and a group of executives from the right-wing network at the Murdoch family ranch near Dillon, Montana.

According to NBC Montana, Air Force Two landed in Butte – which is about 70 miles away from the Murdoch ranch – around 2:30 p.m. local time, resulting in a temporary flight restriction in the area. Politico Playbook would later report that the vice president’s plane would take off again shortly after nightfall, meaning Vance was only in the area for a matter of hours.

Read more: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-murdoch-fox-news-secret-meeting-b2769061.html

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JD Vance flew to Montana for secret meeting with Rupert Murdoch and Fox News executives (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 19 OP
Trump is: Botany Jul 19 #1
They got their laws passed. They no longer need trump. Bluetus Jul 19 #14
My guess is that he will step down for "health reasons" soon. Botany Jul 19 #24
He will never voluntarily walk away from the grift JoseBalow Jul 19 #45
They will present him with the alternative not fooled Jul 19 #49
They can try, but he ain't giving it up willingly. JoseBalow Jul 19 #53
Right. But they can force him into a side room Bluetus Jul 19 #64
I think we've been there for most of his two terms. Gore1FL Jul 20 #83
You are right. So will this really change much? Bluetus Jul 20 #84
Exactly. There is no way he's walking away from the Flying Palace he received as a gift. padah513 Jul 19 #68
They might be able to buy him out. It would have to be a very hefty offer however. Irish_Dem Jul 20 #76
Part of him agreeing to back off is he gets the billion dollar plane for himself. lark Jul 20 #82
I find it ludicrous that people who have seen the orange guy think he would ever give up power. Life support, efhmc Jul 19 #63
I dunno, he seems pretty tired lately and not that interested in the details of the job LymphocyteLover Jul 20 #80
Fat chance of that happening. Gimpyknee Jul 20 #85
Mafia Don Deep State Witch Jul 19 #2
Not a chance. Bluetus Jul 19 #13
Vance has been having all sorts of secret meetings. travelingthrulife Jul 19 #38
Second time snowybirdie Jul 19 #3
Earlier meetings were in northwest part of MT, which had ritzy resorts for rich & infamous Attilatheblond Jul 19 #11
I've heard stories of the filthy rich buying Dr. T Jul 19 #26
Used to live in Montana. Yes, it is getting warmer up there. Farming is changing and changing fast. Attilatheblond Jul 19 #29
Not only land Hornedfrog2000 Jul 20 #74
There are a lot of homesteading survivalist groups in Montana FakeNoose Jul 19 #59
I think Musk showed up as well? flamingdem Jul 19 #65
Seem to recall he did drop into the series of meetings in the northwest part of MT Attilatheblond Jul 19 #67
Yes. Musk was at the last one. And MontanaMama's son worked at the airport where all the Scrivener7 Jul 20 #78
Musk, Thiel and a handful of other billionaires MontanaMama Jul 21 #86
Thanks for the update! flamingdem Jul 21 #89
A DU'er posted here maybe a month ago of a lot of activity in Montana underpants Jul 19 #4
Yup... A lot of plotting has been going on... hlthe2b Jul 19 #5
Both Irish_Dem Jul 19 #6
More like they know his health is bad and they are just making sure JD is fully aware of who the boss's really are;) n/t Cheezoholic Jul 19 #23
Obstruction anyone? Traildogbob Jul 19 #7
Perhaps persuade the WSJ to recant the story zorbasd Jul 19 #31
He's likely positioning himself as a contingency plan, due to not knowing what's going to happen to Trump. Karasu Jul 19 #8
That was always Thiels plan.... alittlelark Jul 19 #10
Yep, and those guys know what's gonna happen with Trump cuz they are orchestrating it Attilatheblond Jul 19 #12
If there really is something wrong it will accelerate underpants Jul 19 #16
Years of extremely poor sleeping habits make the brain go faster too Attilatheblond Jul 19 #20
Absolutely. Thiel and his gang believe democracy is gone and the "tech bros" should run things. SharonAnn Jul 19 #69
That was MontanaMama mahatmakanejeeves Jul 19 #30
Very nice research. Thanks. ❤️ underpants Jul 19 #37
Hey! Yes. That was me. MontanaMama Jul 21 #87
Probably Why They Wanted Tester Out Deep State Witch Jul 19 #51
I remember ..in fact, I thought this was a repeat post. Deuxcents Jul 19 #55
OHI do believe that Vance wants the Presidency so bad, that he can taste it. riversedge Jul 20 #79
Wanna bet it involved $$$$$ and getting them to support him more on their stations? cstanleytech Jul 19 #9
Video: Lawrence O'Donnell thinks Vance is setting Trump up to take over the Presidency chowder66 Jul 19 #15
Maybe the Davenporter is a leaker to Murdoch. Sneederbunk Jul 19 #17
The praetorian guard is coming for the emporer. Lucky Luciano Jul 19 #18
25th Amendment? doc03 Jul 19 #19
That secret meeting didn't stay secret for long Deminpenn Jul 19 #21
That's what I'm thinking. NH Ethylene Jul 19 #32
Trump loyalists knew where Vance was zorbasd Jul 19 #34
Trump's comments and actions are stollen Jul 19 #57
The uber-rich (like Murdoch) and tech bros got the tax breaks they wanted from Trump. Now he's expendable to them. Efilroft Sul Jul 19 #22
Yup. Trump did all the foolish things they wanted and the road is clear for the rich to rape this country thoroughly travelingthrulife Jul 19 #40
WASTE -- FRAUD -- ABUSE Dock_Yard Jul 19 #25
making threats on the Don's behalf... or going behind his back? paulkienitz Jul 19 #27
I suggest it's JD, in the dining room Attilatheblond Jul 19 #33
No Matter What Happens, Chasstev365 Jul 19 #28
It is a good thing, but the damage is done. There are no safeguards any more. travelingthrulife Jul 19 #41
This meeting took place back on June 10th, not this week- see link to June 12 Article wishstar Jul 19 #35
I don't mean to ruin a perfectly good story, but this happened in June. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 19 #36
It's probably the first time that they are reporting it BumRushDaShow Jul 19 #39
See post# 11, 2 different meetings , afew weeks apart questionseverything Jul 19 #44
Air Force Two and J. D. Vance's visit to Butte for a second, later, meeting in July mahatmakanejeeves Jul 19 #46
Ty 4 the correction, good evening to you too questionseverything Jul 19 #60
Obviously Godot51 Jul 19 #42
Vance made another recent trip to Montana to meet the same folks. Ford_Prefect Jul 19 #43
They are coming for you trump. republianmushroom Jul 19 #47
Wtf, are these supposed to be official duties? miyazaki Jul 19 #48
Do any of you actually sit back and read what you are saying? Bluestocking Jul 19 #50
I really need to hear there's no tech bro dystopia on the way... Logically, I feel like getting this far will have been Alice B. Jul 19 #54
Trump may be on the cusp of getting the boot. Turbineguy Jul 19 #52
Oh, just rehearsing a speech. usonian Jul 19 #56
Here we go again! "Imagine if a Democrat had done that..." Grins Jul 19 #58
Does this explain all of the other Montana trips? Renew Deal Jul 19 #61
The oligarchy is making sure that their spare pen has the right color ink. CentralMass Jul 19 #62
Only item on the agenda: the 25th Amendment. :) Dem4life1970 Jul 19 #66
Palace intrigue of the degenerates. Duncanpup Jul 20 #70
So, having a cabinet meeting, eh? Hugin Jul 20 #71
I asked Google what would happen if Krasnov left office kkmarie Jul 20 #72
The theory: Trump resigns in exchange for a full pardon for crimes committed past and present, Auggie Jul 20 #73
His due date is coming up soon...then the ... S/V Loner Jul 20 #75
I wouldn't be surprised if the media monguels now want trump out and vance in, because they believe they lostincalifornia Jul 20 #77
Or did TACO sent Sofaboy to serve papers on Rupert and Faux Snooze about suing them? marble falls Jul 20 #81
I missed this story until now. This seems pretty significant. themaguffin Jul 21 #88

Bluetus

(1,341 posts)
14. They got their laws passed. They no longer need trump.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:24 PM
Jul 19

Trump is now excess baggage looking toward the midterms. I don't know if they will dump him, but they will find a way to push Trump aside.

Botany

(74,865 posts)
24. My guess is that he will step down for "health reasons" soon.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:26 PM
Jul 19

And walk away with billions and then J.D. will come in and Crypto will be made coin of the
realm and ICE will become America’s Gestapo. We are in bad times.

Peter Theil, Musk, Zuckerberg, the Fossil Fuel Industries, Russia, Christo Fascism, the Federalist
Society, China, Saudi Arabia, News Corp and the right wing will really run things. J.D. will just
be a figurehead. The elections in 2026 are already taken care off.

JoseBalow

(8,018 posts)
45. He will never voluntarily walk away from the grift
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:02 PM
Jul 19

He's incapable of leaving money on the table.

not fooled

(6,398 posts)
49. They will present him with the alternative
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:20 PM
Jul 19

which is a steady drip, drip of evidence tying him to Epstein and the most reprehensible conduct they engaged in together.

He can either take the billions he grifted so far in the second term or face being driven out of office.

I think the oligarchy got together and decided that since they got the wealth redistribution bill through (one of whose real intents was to bankrupt the nation so that there is no money to ever enact programs that benefit the people) he's expendable, and more trouble than he's worth because he keeps stirring sh*t up with the tariffs, being an international embarrassment, deporting cheap labor, etc.


JoseBalow

(8,018 posts)
53. They can try, but he ain't giving it up willingly.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:32 PM
Jul 19

He doesn't care what people think of him. Whatever they spring, he'll deny it, spin it, ignore it, call it a hoax, whatever. He has zero shame, and unlimited greed. He won't walk away from the gravy train.

Bluetus

(1,341 posts)
64. Right. But they can force him into a side room
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:13 PM
Jul 19

where he can still put out tweets and run his grifts, but just not do anything from a governance standpoint.

But any effort to do that runs squarely into the ship of fools that are the cabinet, and this huge appropriation for Trump's secret police. As Thiel and friends look toward the midterms, are they going to try to tone down any of that? Or do they figure they have enough control over the election machinery that it doesn't really matter?

Gore1FL

(22,561 posts)
83. I think we've been there for most of his two terms.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:22 AM
Jul 20

He doesn't govern; he says stupid shit and creates chaos.

Bluetus

(1,341 posts)
84. You are right. So will this really change much?
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:06 AM
Jul 20

We should not underestimate the significance of Vance secretly flying to Murdoch's estate for a meeting right when all the powerful billionaires were turning against Trump and right when Trump was threatening a big lawsuit against the Murdochs.

There really are only two possibilities here, I believe:
1) Trump sent Vance on a mission to quietly patch things up with Murdoch.
2) This is the time that Theil and his fellow billionaire tech boys make their move to push Trump aside.

I think the probability of 1) is practically zero. So it really becomes a question whether Theil , Murdoch, Vance, Musk and the others have the guts to confront Trump.

There is a big problem, however. It seems very unlikely that Trump could be removed through impeachment. And let's say that the billionaires convince the Republicans in Congress to impeach and convict. In that case, it might be tactically smart for the Dems to block that, forcing the Republicans to live with Trump. But the Dems never think strategically, so that isn't going to happen.

The other way to force Trump out is through the 25th. But Trump has loaded the cabinet with people who are just as evil and demented as he is, so I can't see them acting.

I'm not sure how Theil gets over this hump.

lark

(25,290 posts)
82. Part of him agreeing to back off is he gets the billion dollar plane for himself.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:08 AM
Jul 20

And he also keeps all the confidential information he stole previously and will steal the updated versions as he leaves. That is how they convince him. Of course he'll probably get some Trump towers in Russia and Gaza to go along with the plane.

efhmc

(15,748 posts)
63. I find it ludicrous that people who have seen the orange guy think he would ever give up power. Life support,
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:01 PM
Jul 19

oxygen supply, etc, will keep him going until Satan himself comes to get him and even then he will be kicking his bloated feet and screeching his stupid Nazi lies as he is hopefully vanished from this realm forever.

LymphocyteLover

(8,409 posts)
80. I dunno, he seems pretty tired lately and not that interested in the details of the job
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:37 AM
Jul 20

I think he could be enticed to leave with the right buyout package

Bluetus

(1,341 posts)
13. Not a chance.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:22 PM
Jul 19

Last edited Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump would never trust Vance to do anything like that. Moreover Trump would simply post something on his website. Trump knows nothing about backroom discussions. Subtlety is not his thing these last 20 years.

travelingthrulife

(2,944 posts)
38. Vance has been having all sorts of secret meetings.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:13 PM
Jul 19

The tech bros want Trump out now that they have ruined the country. Gateways are open to making gazillions of dollars off America's back.

snowybirdie

(6,228 posts)
3. Second time
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:36 PM
Jul 19

A story has appeared about Vance and secret meeting in Montana. The other one was a month or more ago. We'll see. I'm skeptical

Attilatheblond

(6,771 posts)
11. Earlier meetings were in northwest part of MT, which had ritzy resorts for rich & infamous
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:18 PM
Jul 19

Read that Theil was there with JD, hosting others who came in and out.

Dillon, MT, near where the Murdoch 'ranch' is in down in southeast MT.

The thing with Montana these days is that there are a lot of big money people who have homes there now, and damned little media, so it's a good place to slip in and out of if you are getting ducks in line to pull a coup.

Dr. T

(328 posts)
26. I've heard stories of the filthy rich buying
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:43 PM
Jul 19

huge amounts of land in northern states in anticipation of climate change making southern states uninhabitable.

Buy all the land so that if/when that happens, they will make a killing when northern real estate values skyrocket.

Attilatheblond

(6,771 posts)
29. Used to live in Montana. Yes, it is getting warmer up there. Farming is changing and changing fast.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jul 19

And, yes, big money has moved in. The average person there does not make a lot of money, but housing costs are astoundingly high in recent years. The rugged people have been corralled into a service economy, waiting on the rich who are despoiling 'the last best place'.

For the ultra wealthy, it's a safer, more private world and too many local pols are too easily bought.

It has broken what has been left of my heart.

Hornedfrog2000

(404 posts)
74. Not only land
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:19 AM
Jul 20

But they are buying the land in anticipation that is where new fresh water will emerge.

FakeNoose

(38,021 posts)
59. There are a lot of homesteading survivalist groups in Montana
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:29 PM
Jul 19

They've been there for many years, and they're almost communes. Not religious so much as the types that say, "When the food and the oil run out, we'll have all the guns."

Attilatheblond

(6,771 posts)
67. Seem to recall he did drop into the series of meetings in the northwest part of MT
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:31 PM
Jul 19

Theil probably making sure all the rich ducks are in line

Scrivener7

(56,539 posts)
78. Yes. Musk was at the last one. And MontanaMama's son worked at the airport where all the
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:05 AM
Jul 20

employees were required to sign NDAs about the other famous tech and politics people being ferried in and out between the Musk and Vance visits. But the pilot ferrying them in and out said, "They're people who are in the news every day."

If I recall correctly, this was AFTER the break with Musk.

And now Murdoch, just weeks later.

MontanaMama

(24,510 posts)
86. Musk, Thiel and a handful of other billionaires
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 11:29 AM
Jul 21

and investors flew into Missoula the week prior to JD’s meeting at the Murdoch ranch. I don’t think that was related to JD’s meeting. Rumblings around here (Just chatter) is that there’s a data center in the works.

underpants

(191,705 posts)
4. A DU'er posted here maybe a month ago of a lot of activity in Montana
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:39 PM
Jul 19

Other movers and shakers but it included a Vance trip.

Hmm 🤔
Was this to head off the WSJ story?
Is he gearing toward 2028?

He ain’t stupid. He just stands still and waits for everything to fall around him.

hlthe2b

(110,797 posts)
5. Yup... A lot of plotting has been going on...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:45 PM
Jul 19

With or against the orange blob, we must ask?

Cheezoholic

(3,143 posts)
23. More like they know his health is bad and they are just making sure JD is fully aware of who the boss's really are;) n/t
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:26 PM
Jul 19

Traildogbob

(11,565 posts)
7. Obstruction anyone?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:55 PM
Jul 19

Every God damned one off to Gator Prison. With same legal help as they gave immigrants. NONE.
There is only one damn way this shit gets fixed. And it ain’t pretty.
Saw a clip in a movie today, Last Flag Flying, (best movie I have seen in years, if you are a vet you must watch this) and in the background on TV, Sadam had just been drug outta his hole. Battered and beaten, no hair spray or tan, and terror in his eyes, like he forced on everyone while ruling. And the citizens of the country were partying like hell in the streets.
Maybe we will get a party opportunity someday when our country is liberated from our 🍆🥔
And there was also an image of his sons.
Not so smug after their fate.
And the country got all their gold back!

Karasu

(1,697 posts)
8. He's likely positioning himself as a contingency plan, due to not knowing what's going to happen to Trump.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:59 PM
Jul 19

It has fuck-all to do with 2028. Considering the last 6 months, you'll be lucky to have a remotely functional country by then. This regime is not going to play by conventional election rules, anyhow.

Hell, they're already trying to fuck up 2026.

Attilatheblond

(6,771 posts)
12. Yep, and those guys know what's gonna happen with Trump cuz they are orchestrating it
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:21 PM
Jul 19

The only variable is probably Trump's rapidly declining condition and whether they will be ready if he goes down hill faster than they anticipated.

underpants

(191,705 posts)
16. If there really is something wrong it will accelerate
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:50 PM
Jul 19

He’s old, heavy, circulation problems, and is too stupid not to shut up for his own good. It’s only been 6 months as of tomorrow. He’s wearing himself out.

Oh and he sucks. Just wanted to get that on record.

Attilatheblond

(6,771 posts)
20. Years of extremely poor sleeping habits make the brain go faster too
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:54 PM
Jul 19

Years of living on fried food and rage is showing.

SharonAnn

(14,088 posts)
69. Absolutely. Thiel and his gang believe democracy is gone and the "tech bros" should run things.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:05 PM
Jul 19

MontanaMama

(24,510 posts)
87. Hey! Yes. That was me.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 11:40 AM
Jul 21

Musk, Thiel and some other billionaires flew into Missoula a week before JD came up to meet with Murdoch. My kiddo was working at the airport where the private jets are received and verified them all coming and going. He took pics and video. The two events don’t appear to be related but with this lawless crowd, no one really knows.

I don’t think FOTUS will remain in office for too much longer. He’s done what JD and the project 2025 people needed him to do and doesn’t have much use to them going forward. The only consolation that I see is that MAGAts hate JD and that will lead to chaos.

chowder66

(11,014 posts)
15. Video: Lawrence O'Donnell thinks Vance is setting Trump up to take over the Presidency
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:24 PM
Jul 19

It starts around 12:30

&t=2s

For those who would rather read what he said.....
snip...

O’Donnell reacted to Vance’s post, noting that Vance’s demand for the WSJ to release the letter could be detrimental to Trump’s presidency.
...........

He continued, “JD Vance, the person who would move up to the presidency, if this issue becomes so difficult that it drives Donald Trump out of the presidency through impeachment or resignation. We have seen this happen to a president before, and Donald Trump has never been weaker.”

O’Donnell pointed out how Trump himself is not asking to see the letter, nor would any Trump advisor suggest Vance publicly demand to see the letter.

https://www.tvinsider.com/1203322/msnbc-lawrence-odonnell-trump-jd-vance-murdoch/

Deminpenn

(16,933 posts)
21. That secret meeting didn't stay secret for long
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:09 PM
Jul 19

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this has all the markings of a plan to oust Trump.

Vance can plausibly claim that he visited Murdoch to negotiate some sort of agreement for WSJ to back off the Epstein story, but he Rupert. Lachlan and the rest could easily be deciding the best way to remove Trump. Vance has none of Trump's charisma and can't maintain Trump's MAGA following, but FoxNews and Murdoch's papers like the NY Post and WSJ could help him by gradually turning on Trump and supporting Vance. FoxNews viewers and the whole rw media ecosystem would follow whatever FoxNews hosts tell them like Trump bad; Vance good.

It's always been in sort of the back of my mind that Trump would never finish a second term. Maybe that will turn out to be true.

NH Ethylene

(31,190 posts)
32. That's what I'm thinking.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:56 PM
Jul 19

Fox can literally mold the minds of those who watch it. How better to let the air out of Trump's devotees Vance takeover than to actually air all his clueless rants and fascist threats on the news. Then Vance is shown to be the savior and voila! Article 25 can pass without MAGA protest.

zorbasd

(443 posts)
34. Trump loyalists knew where Vance was
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:00 PM
Jul 19

They just want concessions from Murdoch's WSJ and Fox to push for pro Magat propaganda.

stollen

(929 posts)
57. Trump's comments and actions are
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:25 PM
Jul 19

becoming a huge embarrassment to the US that can no longer be covered up. The MAGA natives are restless; the hypnotic ruse is becoming unglued. Bad for business.

Efilroft Sul

(4,099 posts)
22. The uber-rich (like Murdoch) and tech bros got the tax breaks they wanted from Trump. Now he's expendable to them.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:19 PM
Jul 19

That Trump and Musk wrecked the federal government and its oversight functions was an added bonus, but the Apricot Hellbeast is now a liability to the wealthy. Thus, the Wall Street Journal story.

travelingthrulife

(2,944 posts)
40. Yup. Trump did all the foolish things they wanted and the road is clear for the rich to rape this country thoroughly
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:18 PM
Jul 19

He has become a liability.

Chasstev365

(5,802 posts)
28. No Matter What Happens,
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:50 PM
Jul 19

Vance will NEVER have the cult appeal of Trump and that can only be a good thing!

travelingthrulife

(2,944 posts)
41. It is a good thing, but the damage is done. There are no safeguards any more.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:20 PM
Jul 19

There are no co-equal branches of government.

wishstar

(5,747 posts)
35. This meeting took place back on June 10th, not this week- see link to June 12 Article
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:04 PM
Jul 19
https://apnews.com/article/jd-vance-montana-visits-rupert-lachlan-murdoch-d4f040113968ea5d702061cac6129ee4

Seems that the timing could be relevant to the discussion since the meeting was 5 weeks ago

mahatmakanejeeves

(65,890 posts)
36. I don't mean to ruin a perfectly good story, but this happened in June.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:09 PM
Jul 19

39 days ago, as wishstar has also noted, in reply #35.

https://nbcmontana.com/search?find=Vance%20Murdoch

Vance made a brief trip to Montana to speak to Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch, AP sources say

by The Associated Press
Wed, June 11th 2025 at 9:02 PM
Updated Fri, June 27th 2025 at 3:21 PM

Vice President JD Vance on Tuesday made a brief trip to Montana, where he spoke to media mogul Rupert Murdoch; his son Lachlan Murdoch, the head of Fox News and News Corp.; and a group of other Fox News executives, according to two people familiar with the trip. (Photo by Jacquelyn Martin - Pool/Getty Images)

Vice President JD Vance on Tuesday made a brief trip to Montana, where he spoke to media mogul Rupert Murdoch; his son Lachlan Murdoch, the head of Fox News and News Corp.; and a group of other Fox News executives, according to two people familiar with the trip. (Photo by Jacquelyn Martin - Pool/Getty Images

DILLON, Mont. — Vice President JD Vance on Tuesday made a brief trip to Montana, where he spoke to media mogul Rupert Murdoch; his son Lachlan Murdoch, the head of Fox News and News Corp.; and a group of other Fox News executives, according to two people familiar with the trip.

Vance met with the group at the Murdoch family ranch in southwest Montana near Dillon, according to the people. They confirmed the visit to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about it.

{snip}

POLITICS
Vance made a brief trip to Montana to speak to Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch, AP sources say

BY MICHELLE L. PRICE
Updated 7:10 PM EDT, June 11, 2025
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Vice President JD Vance on Tuesday made a brief trip to Montana, where he spoke to media mogul Rupert Murdoch; his son Lachlan Murdoch, the head of Fox News and News Corp.; and a group of other Fox News executives, according to two people familiar with the trip.

Vance met with the group at the Murdoch family ranch in southwest Montana near Dillon, according to the people. They confirmed the visit to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about it.

It’s not clear why the vice president addressed the group or what they spoke about. … A spokesperson for Fox News Channel did not respond to a message seeking comment.

{snip}

The Murdoch ranch near Dillon is roughly 70 miles (110 kilometers) south of Butte. The ranch, which Murdoch purchased in 2021, is spread across two valleys and a mountain range and has some 12,000 cattle. It sits near Yellowstone National Park along the Montana-Idaho border. … According to flight restrictions issued by the Federal Aviation Administration, the vice presidential aircraft was only on the ground for a matter of hours.

___

Associated Press writers Zeke Miller in Washington and Matthew Brown in Billings, Montana, contributed to this report.

BumRushDaShow

(157,285 posts)
39. It's probably the first time that they are reporting it
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:18 PM
Jul 19

if anything, on behalf of their UK readers.

mahatmakanejeeves

(65,890 posts)
46. Air Force Two and J. D. Vance's visit to Butte for a second, later, meeting in July
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:04 PM
Jul 19

has escaped the notice of the NBC affiliate in Butte, the Butte Montana Standard and the Associated Press.

The Independent is the sole source of the story of a second visit. It looks as if they misread the date of the June meeting. Both the NBC link and the Politico link in the story refer to a June meeting.

And good evening.

Godot51

(571 posts)
42. Obviously
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:24 PM
Jul 19

Obviously vance is setting up for a transfer of power once drumpf is deposed. The only question is how soon.

It is my opinion that this has been the plan since the 2024 campaign, elect drumpf by any means, fair or foul, mainly foul, and then promote vance, who was an unelectable national unknown.

Crazed conservative, mainly christian fascists, in congress and on the supreme court, and in the department of justice, have been expanding presidential power to allow this imbecile greater and great powers than any previous president once he is inserted into the position of president.

A big question is whether vance will be as bad as drumpf, or will he be worse?

"prince vance", anyone?

Ford_Prefect

(8,412 posts)
43. Vance made another recent trip to Montana to meet the same folks.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:41 PM
Jul 19

IMO Vance has all the personality of a dead clam. They must expect to control the next election by dubious means indeed.
He is definitely a face to put in front of Thiel, et al and their theocratic nightmare

republianmushroom

(20,774 posts)
47. They are coming for you trump.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:14 PM
Jul 19

Setting the stage for your good by. Don't think that secret r meeting was to praise you trump.

miyazaki

(2,478 posts)
48. Wtf, are these supposed to be official duties?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:16 PM
Jul 19

The dude's a sideshow freak. Would be hilarious even to see McDonald Trump whip up his congressional base to have him impeached.

Bluestocking

(193 posts)
50. Do any of you actually sit back and read what you are saying?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:22 PM
Jul 19

Vance is Trump’s lap dog just like Pence was last time around. The world doesn’t operate like a spy novel. Vance is not popular and never will be.

This plays out like it currently is and in 2028 with Trump gone MAGATs crawl back under their rocks with no savior to follow and the Democrats clean up the mess until 2036 when the Republicans return to power and break things all over again. Lather rinse repeat.

Alice B.

(570 posts)
54. I really need to hear there's no tech bro dystopia on the way... Logically, I feel like getting this far will have been
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:40 PM
Jul 19

... easier for them than keeping it going without the red hat whisperer.

I like to think Thiel and Yarvin et al aren't the kind of geniuses they think they are. I like to think, anyway,
And actually, I remember reading somewhere that even Yarvin doesn't think this is going to go the whole way.

I do think it's super important to prepare to meet every possible voter suppression tactic starting yesterday.

The rest of it, I don't know...

Turbineguy

(39,165 posts)
52. Trump may be on the cusp of getting the boot.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:31 PM
Jul 19

There is only so much benefit he can provide before it all turns to shit. The oligarchs want to own everything, but they don't want a shit pile.

usonian

(19,355 posts)
56. Oh, just rehearsing a speech.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:20 PM
Jul 19

"I come here to bury the ignoble Donald, not to praise him. He hath expelled many immigrants from home, whose legal costs drained the libs ...

He has bequeathed every American citizen the right to buy national park land, and to enjoy a statue of him on Mount Rushlimbaugh, once they pay to build it. "


And so on.

Grins

(8,660 posts)
58. Here we go again! "Imagine if a Democrat had done that..."
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:27 PM
Jul 19

The Reich-wing media would shit cinder blocks for weeks!!

Hugin

(36,700 posts)
71. So, having a cabinet meeting, eh?
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 04:25 AM
Jul 20

The WSJ, Fox, and Murdoch are in on an Epstein distraction from… Wait for it… Epstein.

In a manner consistent with picking the least terminal of afflictions to portray Trump as having, they sorted through what could be seen as being from the so-called Epstein Files for the biggest meh document they could find and make a big headline grabbing deal of it. The drawing described may be in poor taste, but it can be waved off as Trump being Trump. It has nothing to do with the accusations of pedophilia and human trafficking and may have even been provided by Trump himself.

kkmarie

(280 posts)
72. I asked Google what would happen if Krasnov left office
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:04 AM
Jul 20

After reading the answers below. I don't see him willing leaving office.

After leaving office, Donald Trump would face several potential consequences:
*Loss of Presidential Immunity: While he is president, the Supreme Court has granted him broad immunity for official acts. However, this immunity does not extend to actions taken in a private capacity and ends once he leaves office. This means he could potentially face prosecution for alleged crimes committed both before and during his presidency, provided the actions are not covered by the immunity he has received for official acts.
*Continuation of Criminal Cases: The Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity has delayed, but not necessarily ended, federal criminal cases against him, particularly the election interference case led by Special Counsel Jack Smith. Smith has argued that charges could still proceed if they focus on actions taken in a private capacity as a candidate, rather than in an official capacity as president. However, the statute of limitations could pose a challenge in some cases, potentially expiring on some charges in 2026 or 2027.
*Exposure to Civil Lawsuits: Trump is currently facing numerous civil lawsuits, and leaving office would remove any protection offered by the presidency in these cases. The nature of these lawsuits varies, ranging from challenges to his administration's executive orders and policies (like immigration restrictions and policies related to diversity and inclusion) to lawsuits against media outlets and individuals he believes have harmed him. Some of these lawsuits have already been allowed to proceed by courts.
*Continued Political Activity: It's widely expected that Trump would remain an active force in American politics, potentially continuing to hold rallies and express his views on current events. He may also seek to influence the Republican party's future direction. Some experts speculate about potential attempts to bypass the 22nd Amendment's term limits through unconventional means, though the constitutionality of such actions is highly debated.
*Potential Legal Actions Against Opponents: There are reports and suggestions that, if Trump were to return to office or exert significant influence, he might pursue investigations or legal action against those he views as his political adversaries, including members of the Special Counsel's office.
*****In summary, leaving office would likely trigger a new phase in Trump's legal battles, as the protections of the presidency would no longer shield him from prosecution for alleged crimes committed in a private capacity and civil lawsuits. However, the specific outcomes of these cases are uncertain and subject to ongoing legal proceedings and potential appeals.

Auggie

(32,439 posts)
73. The theory: Trump resigns in exchange for a full pardon for crimes committed past and present,
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:55 AM
Jul 20

moves to Gulf state with a no-extradition treaty, and rots away.

He will resign for "business reasons."

lostincalifornia

(3,990 posts)
77. I wouldn't be surprised if the media monguels now want trump out and vance in, because they believe they
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:02 AM
Jul 20

can control vance, and if given the opportunity I have no doubt vance will gladly oblige.

There are a lot of forces destroying our country.


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