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Septua

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69. Don't hold your breath.

Tue Nov 18, 2025, 09:22 PM

6 hrs ago

https://time.com/7334450/epstein-files-released-trump-massie/

After months of insisting that the Epstein files were a “hoax” and his Department of Justice (DOJ) closing its investigation into the case, Trump ordered a new probe last week into several of his political opponents for their links to the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

But legal experts and some key figures pushing for the release of the files have questioned the sudden about-turn, suggesting that Trump may be using the new DOJ investigation to block any further releases.

Republican Rep. Thomas Massie, the key driver behind the push to force a vote in the House of Representatives to release the files, suggested the investigation may be a “smokescreen” and a “last-ditch effort to prevent the release of the Epstein files.”

“If they have ongoing investigations in certain areas, those documents can’t be released,” Massie said Sunday.

There's something in the files Trump doesn't want made public and there's no way in hell he decided overnight to allow it to become public. It's just not in his nature. He's got a plan that will likely keep exclusions in the courts for the remainder of his term. 2¢

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Hang on to your hats... [View all] PCIntern 17 hrs ago OP

what are you talking about? Shellback Squid 17 hrs ago #1

Nothing. Nothing at all... PCIntern 17 hrs ago #3

the murder is new to me unless you mean epsteins demise Shellback Squid 17 hrs ago #4

Ok PCIntern 17 hrs ago #7

No it wasn't Cirsium 13 hrs ago #50

OJ got away with a double murder Skittles 7 hrs ago #68

There you go Cirsium 6 hrs ago #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles 1 hr ago #77

yeah, keep telling yourself that Skittles 1 hr ago #78

Oh, no...I'm thinking a number of these young ladies might have been killed over the years if they tried to get away. PatrickforB 16 hrs ago #29

Epstein's own brother has maintained all along that Jeffrey Epstein did not commit suicide. MuirHero 14 hrs ago #41

It's pretty common for family members to struggle to accept suicide EdmondDantes_ 14 hrs ago #45

If the various indications of Russian Intel involvement are remotely accurate quakerboy 13 hrs ago #48

They will be heavily redacted so nothing comes out. oldmanlynn 11 hrs ago #60

I share your concern that this will be a fizzer, Aussie105 2 hrs ago #74

K&R spanone 17 hrs ago #2

Sounds like 'must-seeTV' EYESORE 9001 17 hrs ago #5

Problem is, many of them evolves 16 hrs ago #24

Or at least their owners are. quakerboy 13 hrs ago #49

All of that plus the cover up will exceed that of Watergate. livetohike 17 hrs ago #6

After this popsdenver 15 hrs ago #35

Compared to this, Watergate is nothing but a cold fart. nt miyazaki 14 hrs ago #43

My blood pressure can't handle COL Mustard 13 hrs ago #47

I agree that would be the case but I don't think doc03 17 hrs ago #8

I'm saddened to think that you're probably correct. Gimpyknee 14 hrs ago #40

The Simpson estate finally settled with Mr. Goldman for over $50 million dollars Ponietz 17 hrs ago #9

And in 30 years Generation Betas will say, "Trump who?" Wednesdays 16 hrs ago #27

I look forward to that day. calimary 2 hrs ago #72

One important difference. O.J. didn't have command of the armed forces or nukes. Fil1957 17 hrs ago #10

RE: OJ, you didn't mention the awesome car chase down the freeway. Intractable 17 hrs ago #11

A great moment in sports history PCIntern 17 hrs ago #14

June 17th....OJ chase was my birthday present... MiHale 15 hrs ago #32

I'd be happy to watch him evolves 16 hrs ago #25

I'd like to see HighFired49 9 hrs ago #64

Sounds like... jmbar2 17 hrs ago #12

I wish I shared your confidence, BlueKota 17 hrs ago #13

That would be the equivalent of Nixon's firing of Archibald Cox PCIntern 17 hrs ago #15

We hope. Wednesdays 16 hrs ago #28

Yeah, I'm worried that they're adulterating the evidence as fast as they can GopherGal 17 hrs ago #18

There is a huge risk to the criminal cabal if they alter the files. MuirHero 14 hrs ago #44

This gives me a bit more reassurance. BlueKota 9 hrs ago #63

Makes me wonder if somebody along the way made himself/herself a copy. calimary 2 hrs ago #73

Almost everybody hates Pedophiles and some of the stuff KS Toronado 16 hrs ago #26

This is a big deal, but not EVERYONE we can think of is in the Epstein files ToxMarz 17 hrs ago #16

I'll see you and raise you one (scandal). TheRickles 17 hrs ago #17

And Putin's involvement. PCIntern 17 hrs ago #19

Yep. I wonder what the Vegas odds are on this all coming out. TheRickles 17 hrs ago #20

Maybe this is what has shuttered Vegas? Captain Zero 1 hr ago #76

Eventually is too long to wait, the country needs it all to come out now. Bev54 16 hrs ago #21

Too long? See JFK files. johnnyfins 15 hrs ago #34

Yup, a Tsunami of crime, corruption, graft, exploitation and just plain ugliness is about to erupt. Joinfortmill 16 hrs ago #22

Yep, and it'll be overwhelming MSM on how to report on it KS Toronado 16 hrs ago #30

can you imagine dershowicz in the civil war rampartd 16 hrs ago #23

Umm... isn't he supposed to shoot himself on live television since Mandami won the election? OldBaldy1701E 5 hrs ago #71

MTG went STRAIGHT AT cilla4progress 16 hrs ago #31

and more than that azureblue 15 hrs ago #33

I agree with what you've said slightlv 11 hrs ago #58

You still assume this vote in the House will ultimately result in the release of the Epstein files YodaMom2 15 hrs ago #36

THIS InstantGratification 11 hrs ago #57

Unfortunately, I think Blondie will be Trump's savior and sit on the files because of an "ongoing investigation." Vinca 15 hrs ago #37

I'm longing for the day Blondie Bondi experiences her John Mitchell comeuppance. Totally Tunsie 14 hrs ago #42

There should be a lawsuit countering that. returnee 12 hrs ago #55

More likely to affirm the untouchability of the rich and powerful Bobstandard 15 hrs ago #38

Just a distraction to kee our eyes away from serious things IbogaProject 14 hrs ago #39

And selling fighter jets to Saudi Arabia. nt. AnotherDreamWeaver 7 hrs ago #65

I'll be concerned about my hat when (if) we actually see documents Jbraybarten 14 hrs ago #46

Good or bad, it will NOT be indifferent, I think this will break the back of the GOP. A conservative third party ... marble falls 13 hrs ago #51

I wish the GOP would go the way slightlv 11 hrs ago #61

My great, great, great grandfather was the last Whig/Know Nothing Governor of Kentucky these guys mostly became ... marble falls 10 hrs ago #62

I still think nothing will come of this CanonRay 13 hrs ago #52

K/R NT ProudProgressiveNow 12 hrs ago #53

Mr. trump will still be the same degenerate half-wit tomorrow as he is today Torchlight 12 hrs ago #54

It is a decades long obscenity and corrupt, knee jerk protection of the powerful over multiple administrations. pat_k 12 hrs ago #56

There us indeed a 'deep state' with a LOT to keep hidden. FraDon 11 hrs ago #59

No offense intended but I can't help but hear Stefan's voice as i read the OP (LMAO) Montauk6 7 hrs ago #66

I can especially hear "exquisite looking people" flamingdem 2 hrs ago #75

We're going to get fake files, and, Trump will proclaim He's acquitted. The media drops the story after that. The end. Oneironaut 7 hrs ago #67

Don't hold your breath. Septua 6 hrs ago #69