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Cirsium

(3,159 posts)
45. I agree
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 01:08 PM
2 hrs ago

Indeed, it doesn’t have to be racism versus sexism and there are a lot of sexist or machismo attitudes in non-white groups as well as white. No question. It doesn’t have to be racism versus class, either.

The descendants of immigrants from Greece and Italy have been folded into whiteness, But descendants of immigrants to Latin America from Spain and Portugal have not been folded into whiteness in the US. When people talk about "Latinos" as some monolithic bloc presumed to be non-European - not white - they are ignorant of the basic history. Latin America was conquered and pillaged by Europeans and power is still largely in the hands of their descendants, while immigrants to the US are disproportionately poor people of various indigenous ethnicities. People conflated non-European with immigrant with Latino, and threw in a little "we know what is best for you" paternalism. I objected to that, and called it racist and elitist.

There are owners of bordellos, plantations, gambling casinos, sweat shops and other exploitative activities who fled to escape popular regimes and come to the US, the most obvious example being the deeply reactionary Cuban American community. Most immigrants are victims of the owners of bordellos, plantations, gambling casinos, sweat shops and other exploitative activities who fled to escape oppression and come to the US, people from Haiti, Guatemala, and Somalia for example.

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President Gavin Newsom will hopefully FILL our prisons with prosecuted ICE agents. nt Exp 22 hrs ago #2
Live and learn little dudes, you were told. republianmushroom 21 hrs ago #3
They're in the FINDING OUT stage Martin Eden 21 hrs ago #4
K&R for, their self-care hit a snag in real time back then. UTUSN 21 hrs ago #5
That's Good they're finally seeing Cha 21 hrs ago #6
They used to. Things changed, inside & out - the times, Catholicism, under-awareness, focus on UTUSN 15 hrs ago #33
Yes they did. I was a little Cha 15 hrs ago #34
They are prime for charisma and heart: JFK, RFK, the CLINTONs. UTUSN 14 hrs ago #35
Mahalo for All Those Historical Anecdotes, Cha 14 hrs ago #38
How they turned toward him in the first place is beyond me. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #7
Misogyny is pretty universal jfz9580m 21 hrs ago #9
I teach in a heavily Hispanic school district in West Michigan and I democratsruletheday 20 hrs ago #12
This is something white liberals jfz9580m 19 hrs ago #21
White liberals figured out the Republican message a long time ago. OAITW r.2.0 17 hrs ago #27
Charisma, maxsolomon 20 hrs ago #14
I hear you about abortion, but charisma? No. Appeal to misogyny and racism more likely. Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #15
Because we find MFer an abhorrent human, many at DU cannot recognize he has Dark Charisma. maxsolomon 19 hrs ago #18
I think we are talking about the same thing, but you are calling it charisma and I am Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #20
I don't think that's Charisma. maxsolomon 19 hrs ago #22
Celebrity Machismo..."El Principe" haele 2 hrs ago #43
i.e, a fundamental form of misogyny Scrivener7 2 hrs ago #46
In many cases that Dark Charisma just comes from being being the Alpha thought crime 2 hrs ago #44
I don't understand how it could possibly be charisma dickthegrouch 3 hrs ago #41
Crawling back, minus their faces..... Coventina 21 hrs ago #8
What happened to that song Keepthesoulalive 20 hrs ago #10
Latinos have a lot to make up for, if you ask me. ffr 20 hrs ago #11
The ones that fled Castro were diehard anti-communists and natural Republican targets. OAITW r.2.0 17 hrs ago #28
Yup orangecrush 20 hrs ago #13
They may recognize the mistake now Red Mountain 20 hrs ago #16
Too bad it's too late. nt Susan Calvin 20 hrs ago #17
Sooo....what you're saying is that if we did a better job with our allies, Trump would have gotten stomped? Moostache 19 hrs ago #19
Terrible thread Cirsium 19 hrs ago #23
Take your bothsiderism outta here! Coventina 19 hrs ago #24
Nonsense Cirsium 19 hrs ago #25
This is about voting for Trump Coventina 19 hrs ago #26
You make my point Cirsium 16 hrs ago #31
If you don't think polls of population groups on specifc issues are valid topics Coventina 16 hrs ago #32
I didn't say that Cirsium 14 hrs ago #37
Blaming "the elites" is also an illiberal talking point. Coventina 13 hrs ago #39
Blaming the elites Cirsium 3 hrs ago #42
I am nonwhite jfz9580m 13 hrs ago #40
I agree Cirsium 2 hrs ago #45
Interesting stats. Harry Enten should do weather though. Bristlecone 17 hrs ago #29
I get it. His presentation style is a bit unusual for sure. writes3000 16 hrs ago #30
He's neurodivergent róisín_dubh 14 hrs ago #36
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