I don't want to depreciate them too much because we need every ally we can get, but really no excuse for any sensible adult to vote for The Felon in 2024.

the light.

Too bad they should have known better.

It is the greatest(!) of all bonds.

really like everyone I work with. But...they have blind spots politically. Some from religion and some from misogyny. Harsh, but true.

Don’t seem to get at first. People are the same and that cuts both ways.

If it means that racist shit about IQ etc is garbage, it also means that in all groups, self interest aside, the same tiresome Magat mentality exists - religiosity, sexism, suspicion of science along with the wish to exploit it for toys, zero concern for earth etc.

I am a non-white liberal (well more left these days than liberal). I have had the flipped white liberal syndrome at times and felt more tolerant towards Magats who are not of Indian origin (I am Indian), figuring that “okay I don’t know what’s going on there”. Whereas I can peg the Ramaswamy types easily.

plus Abortion.

I hate his guts and wish he'd died 40 years ago, but he has Charisma.

Charisma is what wins elections - it persuades the low-information voters.

calling it appeal to racism and misogyny. The effect on the recipient is the same.

Charisma is what allows MFer to make his appeal to racism and misogyny (and corruption and cheating and cruelty) appealing.

I will vote for Donald Trump. Doesn’t sound so good and catchy now.

The way I look at it, it doesn't matter how much they've turned on tRump. Some of them were all too willing participants in getting other Latinos to vote for the felon guy over the let's put our house in order and continue Bidenomics lady in blue.

I'm all too sure that come mid-terms, they'll have another change of heart and fall in love with the GOP again. The same GOP that has never liked Latinos! But hey, I'm not Latino, so I cannot say what attraction there would ever be to such an abusive relationship as the one presented by history.

but they've got another 3 years+ of purgatory to endure.

I saw some Trump acceptance in undocumented (unofficially.....grandfathered in) coworkers I found odd during his first reelection campaign.....never figured out the source but it has to have been Spanish language TV, radio or the church.

They can't vote but I bet the attitudes have changed.

I am sorry and do not wish to state racially stupid things, but how is this POSSIBLE? There was no doubt before the election last year which candidate was going to at least TRY to do more for the undocumented and the minorities in this nation. There was ZERO DOUBT which person on the ballot was a racist pig, a clown, a charlatan that actually said stupid shit like "They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats..." AND THAT MOTHERFUCKER GOT 50% MORE support from LATINOS THAN RIGHT NOW???

Seriously, I am 100% curious and unfortunately I do not have a large Latin population or friend group to ask, but WHATTHE ACTUAL FUCK WERE THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM SMOKING?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

The worst. "They???" "Little dudes?" "Crawling back?" They "have a lot to make up for?" "They've got another 3 years+ of purgatory to endure?"

Racist and elitist. I know this is going to kick over the proverbial beehive, but seriously folks, reconsider this FAFO crap, and stop looking at people as voting blocs based on race. People are people. The Democratic party has betrayed immigrants over and over again. The war on immigrants has always been a bipartisan affair and was going on long before Trump.

That shit don’t play.

What "bothsiderism?" The war on immigrants has been a bipartisan affair. The bothsiderism idea means excusing what Republicans do because "Democrats do it too!" I am not excusing anyone for the way immigrants have been and are being treated. Nor am I defending or apologizing for the reign of terror by the Trump administration. But nor will I excuse the forty-six Democrats who crossed party lines to vote for the Laken Riley Act at the outset of Trump's second term. Will you?

And Latinos support of Trump.

A man who said he was going to be shitty to immigrants if he was re-elected. A man who was shitty to immigrants his first term. They ignored the evidence. That’s on them 100%