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UTUSN

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35. They are prime for charisma and heart: JFK, RFK, the CLINTONs.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 12:57 AM
18 hrs ago

LBJ & the BUSHes are in sort of a different category from "charisma" - more like, those peeps *LIKING* them/Latinos. Down to earth, acknowledging. A smile and a hug go a long way.

Will add the personal distance within the Democratic relating to the FDR-age-old Hispanic constituency (but worse in Wingnuttiness) - during the Bill-Monica thing, Bill went to the Hispanic Caucus and was greeted by them with *WILD* yelling support, yet Bill tamped it down, told them to sit and settle down, whereas he related more to other ethnic constituencies. And in post-coup 2000 when Al GORE went on SNL, he did a skit where his peeve against campaigning was having to go on the Spanish language networks featuring stereotype Latinos mugging and jumping around and having to hold a Chihuahua dog. ----- Disconnects going on there.

Here's a pic of W. Shrub relating after Katrina when Mexicans from Mexico crossed into U.S. to provide aid - imagine the caravan crossing what they considered "their" former territory putting aside the intervening unpleasantness. The point is relating, human sincerity, acceptance.


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K&R spanone Yesterday #1
President Gavin Newsom will hopefully FILL our prisons with prosecuted ICE agents. nt Exp Yesterday #2
Live and learn little dudes, you were told. republianmushroom Yesterday #3
They're in the FINDING OUT stage Martin Eden Yesterday #4
K&R for, their self-care hit a snag in real time back then. UTUSN Yesterday #5
That's Good they're finally seeing Cha Yesterday #6
They used to. Things changed, inside & out - the times, Catholicism, under-awareness, focus on UTUSN 19 hrs ago #33
Yes they did. I was a little Cha 19 hrs ago #34
They are prime for charisma and heart: JFK, RFK, the CLINTONs. UTUSN 18 hrs ago #35
Mahalo for All Those Historical Anecdotes, Cha 17 hrs ago #38
How they turned toward him in the first place is beyond me. Scrivener7 Yesterday #7
Misogyny is pretty universal jfz9580m Yesterday #9
I teach in a heavily Hispanic school district in West Michigan and I democratsruletheday Yesterday #12
This is something white liberals jfz9580m 23 hrs ago #21
White liberals figured out the Republican message a long time ago. OAITW r.2.0 21 hrs ago #27
Charisma, maxsolomon 23 hrs ago #14
I hear you about abortion, but charisma? No. Appeal to misogyny and racism more likely. Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #15
Because we find MFer an abhorrent human, many at DU cannot recognize he has Dark Charisma. maxsolomon 23 hrs ago #18
I think we are talking about the same thing, but you are calling it charisma and I am Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #20
I don't think that's Charisma. maxsolomon 23 hrs ago #22
Celebrity Machismo..."El Principe" haele 6 hrs ago #43
i.e, a fundamental form of misogyny Scrivener7 6 hrs ago #46
In many cases that Dark Charisma just comes from being being the Alpha thought crime 6 hrs ago #44
I don't understand how it could possibly be charisma dickthegrouch 7 hrs ago #41
Crawling back, minus their faces..... Coventina Yesterday #8
What happened to that song Keepthesoulalive Yesterday #10
Latinos have a lot to make up for, if you ask me. ffr Yesterday #11
The ones that fled Castro were diehard anti-communists and natural Republican targets. OAITW r.2.0 21 hrs ago #28
Yup orangecrush 23 hrs ago #13
They may recognize the mistake now Red Mountain 23 hrs ago #16
Too bad it's too late. nt Susan Calvin 23 hrs ago #17
Sooo....what you're saying is that if we did a better job with our allies, Trump would have gotten stomped? Moostache 23 hrs ago #19
Terrible thread Cirsium 23 hrs ago #23
Take your bothsiderism outta here! Coventina 22 hrs ago #24
Nonsense Cirsium 22 hrs ago #25
This is about voting for Trump Coventina 22 hrs ago #26
You make my point Cirsium 19 hrs ago #31
If you don't think polls of population groups on specifc issues are valid topics Coventina 19 hrs ago #32
I didn't say that Cirsium 17 hrs ago #37
Blaming "the elites" is also an illiberal talking point. Coventina 17 hrs ago #39
Blaming the elites Cirsium 6 hrs ago #42
I am nonwhite jfz9580m 16 hrs ago #40
I agree Cirsium 6 hrs ago #45
Interesting stats. Harry Enten should do weather though. Bristlecone 21 hrs ago #29
I get it. His presentation style is a bit unusual for sure. writes3000 19 hrs ago #30
He's neurodivergent róisín_dubh 17 hrs ago #36
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