General Discussion

But would love Americans to live without the terror of unaffordable medical bills. However, I doubt if many of the 'freedom' brigade would stand for what universal health care can demand of its users.

The Australian federal government has put ever increasing taxes on tobacco products. The taxes are effectively pricing most folk out of smoking. I believe that a pack of 25 - 30 low cost cigarettes now costs around $60. Yes sixty bucks, give or take.

Having universal health care gives the government a mandate to restrict or do away with things that are adding the the cost of the health bill for the whole nation. This doesn't happen without discussion and community consultation. But I just cannot see the 'Dont tread on me' folk letting the government curtail any of their 'freedoms' - including to smoke tobacco.

I also think that the second amendment and universal health care are not compatible with each other. I mean, who is going to underwrite a country full of people with guns who sometimes use them indiscriminately?