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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you could change one thing about how American health care is structured, what would it be?

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Americans health would benefit from a return to evidence-based vaccine policy. Putting aside the immediate crisis we face, there are common-sense steps we could take to build on the undeniable health and economic benefits that vaccines deliver. Its time to pair the Vaccines for Children (VFC) program, which provides vaccines at no cost to children whose families might not otherwise be able to afford them, with a long-envisioned Vaccines for Adults (VFA) program. These programs should be independent of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommendations, meaning any American who wants access to a Food and Drug Administration-approved vaccine to protect their health could have it, regardless of their ability to pay. According to CDC data, over the last roughly 30 years, VFC has helped avert 508 million lifetime cases of illness, 32 million hospitalizations and more than 1.1 million premature deaths. It also generated more than half a trillion dollars in net savings. Estimates suggest VFA could provide a 19-fold return on investment, increasing productivity and reducing health care costs. VFA and a further strengthened VFC would empower individuals and doctors, putting the decision to vaccinate in their hands. Unfettered access to vaccines will increase uptake, save lives and avoid unnecessary health care costs.
Michael Osterholm is the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.

In my years working at The Washington Post, we were all acolytes of the Woodward and Bernstein mantra: Follow the money. Its no different in health care. And thats why we need to put an end to fee-for-service medicine. Under the current U.S. system, we pay (and pay and pay) for people to do things to us. Write a script, draw blood, scan an image ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching. Its a perverse set of financial incentives. If your friendly neighborhood doctor, nurse, lab tech or surgeon doesnt do something, they dont get paid. And if that happens often enough, they cant pay their rent, buy groceries or pay for the kids dance lessons. They arent greedy, and it isnt their fault; its the economic paradigm that forces them to behave this way. One perverse incentive leads to another. So simple fixes are escalated to the ER, because thats a higher fee. Why run one test if three are available? Overuse of services, by the way, is not only costly but dangerous. Rarely does someone in the health sector get paid to keep you out of the hospital, off the meds and living life to the fullest. Needless to say, inevitably most of us will need some of those things done. But wouldnt it be nice if the incentives were flipped?
Ceci Connolly is president and CEO of the Alliance of Community Health Plans.

Every health reform debate over the course of our history expanding coverage, addressing costs, fixing payment systems has been constrained by a fundamental flaw: We still treat health care as a privilege, not a guarantee. As long as eligibility for coverage depends on where (or whether) you work, how much you earn, where you live, or whether youve filled out the right paperwork, millions will cycle in and out of care. Eligibility redeterminations for Medicaid coverage, work requirements and narrow benefit designs reflect a system built to ration access and address fraud (real or perceived) but not to promote health. If we recognized health care as a right a basic guarantee of dignity and opportunity it would mean continuous, affordable access to primary and preventive care, not just for those who qualify or can afford it, but for everyone. It would allow states and payers to focus on improving quality and outcomes rather than creating and enforcing eligibility hurdles. Recognizing health care as a right doesnt require a single payer or one-size-fits-all model. But it would mean a national commitment that every person can access affordable care without fear of bankruptcy. That foundation would enable other reforms and results: care coordination, smarter spending and a healthier, more productive country. If we really want to make America healthy again, it starts with guaranteeing that health care is assured, not earned.
Liz Fowler is a distinguished scholar at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

Nearly one-quarter of Americans with private health insurance get an extra break on their health spending by holding a tax-favored savings account, generally a Health Savings Account or Flexible Spending Account. These tax breaks are inequitable and inefficient, and their knock-on effects inhibit the effective functioning of a competitive health care market. Get rid of them! Benefits from savings accounts are greatest for people in high marginal tax brackets who have ample funds to set aside for future expenses. They do nothing to make care more affordable for most Americans. These breaks turn the logic of insurance design encouraging people to be deliberate in the initiation of care while protecting them against high expenses upside down. Instead of protecting people from high costs, they offer discounts on the first dollar of care and for entirely discretionary purchases such as eyeglasses, vitamins, and, most recently, fancy treadmills and Oura Rings. In doing so, they drive up insurance premiums. Finally, these accounts subsidize the provision of medical services outside insurance networks. Because plans representing millions of members are far more effective negotiators than individuals, subsidizing that care undermines price discipline across the market.
Sherry Glied is a professor at, and former dean of, New York Universitys Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service.
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yourout
(8,663 posts)That by itself would force healthcare companies to be competitive.
NameAlreadyTaken
(2,155 posts)anciano
(2,032 posts)pecosbob
(8,243 posts)Hope22
(4,338 posts)Aim for good health instead of standard testing with cold interactions. Try actually supporting patients with disease such as Lyme disease and actually foster healthy immune systems in all patients. Throwing pills at people with dead immune systems is a waste. Not urging physical therapy across the board in lieu of pills and condescending comments is not healthcare.
Mark.b2
(703 posts)for med expenses. What you dont spend, you get to keep for blow money. This incents people to shop around to minimize cost.
But, provide everyone separate coverage for major medical. Single payer.
We need an element of the market in routine medical service to help control expense while also providing coverage for the bad stuff. Allowing people to keep what they dont spend incents people not to use medical service for very minor things. Like, dont go to the ER for the sniffles.
hunter
(40,196 posts)Going to the E.R. is a hellish experience unless there is something very seriously wrong with you.
People with gunshot wounds, knife wounds, heart attacks, compound fractures, stokes, having babies, etc., always come first.
I guess if you like sitting for hours in a crowded waiting room, maybe sitting next to someone who hasn't bathed for years, listening to people screaming in pain or yelling obscenities is your thing, go for it.
Fortunately, the last time I went to the ER I was so messed up I hardly remember any of it. (At the end of it all I owed the hospital about $10,000 to cover what my insurance hadn't paid.)
I've also taken people to the ER and that's never any fun.
Med accounts like you suggest are not a good idea. People will keep the money and not seek care for the sorts of seemingly minor complaints that turn into medical catastrophes. Many cancers are a good example of this. Catch them early and the prognosis is good and the costs not outrageous. Put off having a doctor examine them because you don't want to pay for the visit, then treatment becomes incredibly expensive and maybe you die.
Mark.b2
(703 posts)by the urgent care clinics I went to firstonce for kidney stones (urgent care clinics here wont treat severe pain) and the other for high blood pressure they deemed ER-worthy because of stroke risk.
When I was in the waiting room with the stones, I was waiting where I could hear reception as they triaged everyone. About half the people were sent away having been given directions to the closest urgent care clinic. A good thing, if you ask me.
I said something to my nurse on my second trip about being surprised at the number of people trying to be seen at the ER. Thats when he told me about frequent flyers. They are people who show up very often, sometimes almost daily, to the ER. He said many are mental, many are substance abusers, some are just lonely, some think the ER is for any real or perceived ailment, and some have no money think the ER must treat them. Its basically the bar scene in Star Wars but with patients and patient-wannabes.
Even if the govt gave everyone coverage, it doesnt mean people will take dr visits and more cancers possibly found. Ultimately, each adult has to be responsible for seeking out care. I like putting the purchasing power and decision-making in the hands of the patient by giving them control over enough funds for purchasing good basic healthcare. Besides giving them access to good care and allowing them to shop around, my theory is healthcare providers would have to compete for patients, thereby helping control costs. Hopefully, many fewer people would be needed to administer the process on the govt and helthcare providers sides.
For sure, there is so much to consider. It might take trying many things.
hunter
(40,196 posts)... they are not getting appropriate health care elsewhere.
A lot of people need to be in some kind of mildly supervised housing with on-site medical clinics.
We have heavily supervised housing with on-site medical clinics in the form of prisons, and a woefully inadequate supply of low income housing for people who can mostly take care of themselves, but there's not a lot of housing for people who are not criminal, not employable who end up living on the streets and frequenting hospital emergency rooms for all sorts of reasons.
Diamond_Dog
(39,172 posts)Rec
Freddie
(10,006 posts)Yes establish a payroll tax (both employer and employee) for healthcare but thats it. No more being chained to your job. No more loss of income AND healthcare if you lose your job.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,769 posts)But the capitalists will never allow it. Everything has to be for profit.
Our entire system needs to be overturned.
canetoad
(19,851 posts)But would love Americans to live without the terror of unaffordable medical bills. However, I doubt if many of the 'freedom' brigade would stand for what universal health care can demand of its users.
The Australian federal government has put ever increasing taxes on tobacco products. The taxes are effectively pricing most folk out of smoking. I believe that a pack of 25 - 30 low cost cigarettes now costs around $60. Yes sixty bucks, give or take.
Having universal health care gives the government a mandate to restrict or do away with things that are adding the the cost of the health bill for the whole nation. This doesn't happen without discussion and community consultation. But I just cannot see the 'Dont tread on me' folk letting the government curtail any of their 'freedoms' - including to smoke tobacco.
I also think that the second amendment and universal health care are not compatible with each other. I mean, who is going to underwrite a country full of people with guns who sometimes use them indiscriminately?
hunter
(40,196 posts)... and that our health care system is even better for wealthy people.
None of that is true.
We pay more than anyone else in the world, but for all that money we get mediocre and frequently inappropriate health care.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,925 posts)Congress people have to live with the healthcare they legislate for every other American.
NO free rides, NO special treatment.
They -supposedly- represent Americans, they are nothing special and deserve no special treatment.
Make them live with their decisions, and maybe they'll give a shit.
leftstreet
(38,370 posts)Insurers
Pharma
IcyPeas
(24,636 posts)ColoringFool
(100 posts)WOULD RECEIVE NO HEALTHCARE FROM ANYONE AT ANY TIME FOR ANYTHING, EVER.
NOT A BANDAID, NOT AN ASPIRIN, NOT A COUGH DROP.
AND DEFINITELY NO VACCINATIONS.
Can I BE any clearer? [tm Chandler Bing]
ForgedCrank
(2,974 posts)frank, I'd outlaw health insurance completely.
The system is rigged, just like the student loan scam. Prices for healthcare services would be in line with what people could afford if insurance were eliminated. Obviously, years of this corruption have gotten it so embedded that ripping it out would be catastrophic and would take years to settle into what it should be, causing untold suffering and death so we are likely stuck with it now.
But, you can blame the insurance system for the outrageous pricing.
hunter
(40,196 posts)Many nations have better health care than ours -- systems that actually improve people's health rather than threatening them with financial ruin for mediocre and inappropriate medical care.
The U.S.A. doesn't have to invent anything new, we can simply choose the sort of universal health care system that we think will work best for us. Our nation isn't so "exceptional" that we have to build a universal health care system entirely from the ground up.
If I could change our health care system I'd make medical school, nursing school, and training for other medical professions free. Graduates of these programs would work a certain number of years (not many...) in public hospitals and clinics located in areas that currently have no easily accessible health care services. These medical professionals would be paid enough, and the working conditions would be pleasant enough, that most stayed on when their contracted service ended. This would be paid for by progressive income taxes on the affluent and wealthy.
The current system of student loan repayments for similar work is broken and not beneficial to anyone but those who game our monetary system.
gulliver
(13,644 posts)Our system wants to fix things after they are broken instead of just preventing them from breaking in the first place. I'd argue that if we required recess and PE in all schools (public or private), disallowed phones, and provided nutritious breakfast and lunch to students for free, it would pay off in spades. It's the best "interception point" to try to positively affect aggregate health.
Our policies need to focus on reducing healthcare demand dramatically while making "sick care" available as necessary to all. Just throwing money into the hands of our current, grotesque "sick care" industrial complex is not just a waste of money. It's extremely bad for our health.
Words can't begin to describe the absurdity and grotesqueness of America's health and health care monster. Voltaire would be struck mute.