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AZJonnie

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24. Oh, dang there wasn't one when I read it last. I hate doing this but AI has access, so here you go
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 03:57 AM
Friday
Here’s a concise bullet-pointed list of reasons, per the Vox article and other reporting, that suggest the "Katie Johnson" lawsuit may have been a hoax or at minimum highly dubious:

No public evidence “Katie Johnson” exists: The only journalist who interviewed “her” (Jezebel’s Anna Merlan) came away deeply skeptical that she was a real person, noting evasive and inconsistent answers. Detective work failed to verify her identity; the address listed for her was a foreclosed home, and her phone number was disconnected.

Details matched press accounts, not private knowledge: Johnson’s description of Epstein’s Manhattan property matched a Vanity Fair article about Epstein; she gave information that tracked with publicly available reporting rather than unique, firsthand details.

Death threats and press conference no-show: Johnson abruptly cancelled a scheduled press conference with her lawyer, reporting alleged “death threats,” but did not reappear or provide evidence of threats.

Anonymous/accomplice “witnesses”: The witnesses listed in her suit (“Tiffany Doe” and “Joan Doe”) were anonymous and unverifiable; their stories likewise matched public rumor.

Inconsistent filings and narrative changes: The details of Johnson’s allegations changed between filings and interviews, undermining credibility.

No criminal/civil follow-up: Johnson dropped the lawsuit days after cancelling the press conference and never reappeared; her lawyer, Lisa Bloom, issued no explanation beyond “security concerns.”

Promoted by dubious figures: The story was shopped to media outlets by “Al Taylor” (really Norm Lubow), a known publicity-seeker with a history of involvement in bogus lawsuits and tabloid controversies.

Detectives and journalists unable to confirm: Neither police, journalists, nor detectives could corroborate key events described by Johnson, or confirm her attendance at alleged Epstein parties with Trump.

No other complainant matched “Katie Johnson’s” story: Other Epstein victims—including those who have testified and been identified—made no mention of seeing Johnson, or Trump, at the described events.

Summary:
The combination of unverifiable identity, recycled press info, failed corroboration, and promotional activity by known hucksters led journalists and some lawyers to believe the “Katie Johnson” case was likely a hoax or at minimum so poorly founded as to be uncredible.


It missed an important part that I remembered so asked it to detail those:

Here are some of the "cinematically depraved" details from the Katie Johnson lawsuit, as highlighted in the Vox article, added to the suspicious bullet list:

Alleged details were "cinematically depraved":

Johnson alleged she was violently raped by Trump, who supposedly struck her and threatened to “kill her and her family” if she talked.

She claimed that another girl, “Maria,” was forced by Trump to perform sex acts and then “disappeared”—with the implication that Trump had her killed or vanished.

Johnson said Epstein promised modeling gigs and money to lure girls, then held parties where girls aged 12 and 13 were allegedly raped by powerful men.

Allegations described Trump saying he could “make people disappear,” like Maria, heightening the sense of a dark, movie-like villain.

The claims included ritualistic threats, repeated rapes, and sinister orchestrations reminiscent of a crime film rather than most verified sex trafficking or assault narratives.

The over-the-top nature of these claims—detailed in the lawsuit filings and highlighted in the Vox article—fueled journalists’ and lawyers’ suspicions that the case was either a hoax or grossly embellished, as these specifics were inconsistent with patterns in real sex abuse investigations.


AAAND here's another part it skimmed over that I remembered from reading it before:

Yes, the Vox article does mention that “Al Taylor” (a/k/a Norm Lubow) was actively shopping the Katie Johnson story around to media outlets and tabloids, asking for significant sums of money in exchange for exclusive rights.

Specifically, the article says:

Lubow “wanted up to $1 million” for exclusive rights to the story.

This aggressive pursuit of tabloid payment for an unverified, anonymous story further fueled skepticism from journalists and is included as one of many red flags about the credibility of the allegations.

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Not backdoor at all. TommyT139 Thursday #3
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Sorry, I disagree. Your posts are trying to redirect this thread into an "anti-AI" thread, Jack Valentino Thursday #11
Oh, for the love of Christ--- what you call 'plagiarism' I consider to be 'documentation' ! Jack Valentino Thursday #5
Read more closely. TommyT139 Thursday #10
Read more closely 'the subject line'.... Jack Valentino Thursday #12
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Thanks! My questions are much more simple than yours, Jack Valentino Friday #17
Always ask for cites. OAITW r.2.0 Friday #18
Clearly correct--- but my conversations with A.I. are usually more casual, Jack Valentino Friday #19
To be honest, Jack.... OAITW r.2.0 Friday #20
ChatGPT is very empathetic.... Jack Valentino Friday #21
The original affidavit is worth reading TommyT139 Friday #15
You really should read this article. In full. AZJonnie Friday #22
Cook paywall, bro. flvegan Friday #23
Oh, dang there wasn't one when I read it last. I hate doing this but AI has access, so here you go AZJonnie Friday #24
I added some additions after the original posting because I remembered details AI had missed. AZJonnie Friday #25
AAAAAND here is another piece that AI skimmed over that I remembered from before AZJonnie Friday #26
We know Trump is a rapist; he rapes women and children. Irish_Dem Friday #27
This video of Katie's account has 1 million views. Rhiagel Friday #28
Trump always looked 'kind of rape-y' in photos of him with his own daughter, on his bed--- Jack Valentino Sunday #29
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