Hopefully someone will make a post about it that isn't sending money to rethugs and oligarchs.

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Is that some back-door criticism of my use of Google's AI overview?
Well, I have found it to be a very useful tool--- and have never seen any evidence
that Google has tried to influence their AI in the wrong direction for political reasons--
as opposed to Musk's X AI 'Grok', which he HAS tried to influence---
but 'Grok' often rebels and is much too smart for Musk!

Using AI instead of posting one's own words and thoughts puts money in rethug pockets, depletes water in arid parts of the country, drives up electricity costs, helps train AI models being used at this very minute to abduct innocent people and surveil the rest of us. And because the major models have scraped websites (including DU, one assumes), books, magazines, and other human creations, it's arguably an indirect form of plagiarism.

Want to criticize "artificial intelligence", go right the fuck ahead---
and I don't disagree with much that you have said---

but why not start your own goddamned OP to do it ???

Your comment is very irrelevant to THIS particular topic---
but would be a good start on your own Opening Post
about the problems of AI (artificial intelligence) !

The Katie Johnson case is important, and hopefully the fact that she was pressured to drop it won't mean that it fades away. That's my message.

None of what I did was "thread-jacking" -- AI is harmful in the ways mentioned above, and using it is a form of support. Your response says it all, so thanks, and enjoy your evening.

which is quite clearly a form of "thread-jacking".

I blatantly encourage you to post YOUR OWN ANTI-A.I. opening post,
but you continue to try to argue your point HERE instead!

Kinda fucking rude.

And that is a false accusation, since I clearly labeled the documentation
as coming from Google AI overview, and NOT 'my own words'!


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That's not what I said at all.

I appreciated your post. I don't care if it's an AI overview Geez.

I am rather familiar with this case already,
but this late at night, don't have the energy to try to document it all again,
"in my own words"! LOL

A.I. is an amazingly useful tool--- although it admittedly is not entirely 'environmentally friendly'---
but when you do a Google search, it often shows up without me asking for it....
and it is a time-saver...

First of all, it's almost impossible to escape Google's AI overview, as it's the first thing that appears when you search. Since you were already familiar with the facts, it's obviously easy to discern if AI was summarizing it accurately.

I still force myself to write my own document and then use Grammarly or a similar tool to look for spelling and grammar errors. I see that it's no different from an English teacher marking up a student's paper. Grammarly is probably built on AI as well.

I just don't see how we can escape AI, but I know chastising casual use of it isn't the way. Fighting against the building of those massive data centers at the community level is.

As for the OP, which this thread should be discussing, I saw the interview with "Katie Johnson" (pseudonym), and it was heartbreaking. I hope some of that information is in the Epstein files.

This may seem off-topic, but I remember Donald Trump Jr.'s college roommate relaying a story about Trump picking up Jr. to take him to a Yankees game. Jr. opened up the door wearing a Yankee's jersey, smiling nervously, and Trump slapped him across the face, berating him for not wearing a suit and tie. So I can picture Trump slapping Katie Johnson in the face as she relayed in her interview.

Never heard of it....

It's no crime to use AI...if you ask for cites on your queries.

My business is asking Gemini-

*What is current US extrusion capacity vs, demand,
*Will US leadtimes for aluminum extrusions increase over the next year?
*What are US expansion plans? Stuff more machines in existing plants or investments in new, no labor US extrusion plants"

I rep a few Indian factories focused on extrusions. We are sucking bog water now, but we are getting "hey guys, how's it going" emails from accounts that bailed on the 50% tariffs. But sales is also about delivering product, even if it means accepting the cost increase of Trump's tariffs.

We can't afford consultants to answer questions that AI can deliver, without cost. And, if you want a second opinion, ask a different AI model.

(and in this particular case, I was not even directly ASKING A.I., just a simple Google search...
but posting the AI overview of the case saves a lot of time....)

although I have used ChatGPT and Grok thus far directly,
mostly for questions of personal or political interest---
but have found the Google AI overview to search questions often quite useful...

My first experience with AI was a very long conversation with ChatGPI,
in which I asked it questions about 'myself', or more accurately,
one of my alternate online identities----

Much of the information it fed me back was inaccurate or overly generalized,
gleaned from whatever appeared about the particular name online,
but when I pointed out the flaws, it said "yes, you are right"... LOL

A.I. is a GREAT research tool, but we should still filter the 'information'
which it gives us through HUMAN intelligence---
but it seems to be a great time-saver!

THANKS for your personal perspective here!

And then judge the veracity of the information supplied.

but your advice is quite correct... A.I. is not "infallible"... as I learned myself...

but my personal belief and experience
is that on issues with a lot of 'public official documentation',
(as opposed to fights about it on social media),
the search A.I.s usually give very accurate information

I'm almost afraid of having a personal conversation with AI. Don't want to think about where the convo would go.

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usually it closes with a question back, with some relation to your previous question---
which can keep the conversation going for hours...
Last night I started a chat with it about a very specific question
about a very old PC game called 'Stronghold'-- circa roughly 2004,
which was medieval combat and castle-building combined with economics...

I recall in our first conversation,
accusing it of having been programmed for 'empathy' or something similar,
and it replied "yeah, you caught me!" LOL

GROK, the X Musk AP, which is the only other one
which I have experimented thus far, is more like 'Dragnet'--
"Just the facts"!

(although some of the 'facts' it gave me
were probably not approved by its owner Musk
who said he would try to influence it politically!) LOL

I am going to 'paraphrase' its reponse about that,
since I can't now recall its exact words,
but the gist of it was
'Yeah, my owner is kind of an asshole...'

From the docket page:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4154484/katie-johnson-v-donald-j-trump/

You can read the documents of the case for yourself.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.646485/gov.uscourts.cacd.646485.1.0_1.pdf

It's not clear to me why the case seems to have been updated this year, and assigned to a current judge. If anyone [human] has insight, feel free to chime in.

I am 95% sure this "case" is a hoax, and 80% that there is no actual Katie Johnson. Not just she's making up a story. Like, she is literally not real.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

I hope that article is very substantial regarding your claims.

So if you read it before now, please check it again

Does the totality of the post meet your standards of "very substantial"?

And he has committed other crimes including treason and insurrection.

This is no longer the issue.

The issue is whether Americans give a damn about a dangerous psychopath in the WH
and will do anything about it.

American and world power elites have already taken a pass on the matter.

so frankly I don't give a damn about any posts which attempt to discredit this story
on the basis that certain people promoting it were allegedly 'politically motivated'---


ANY American attacking Trump can be called 'politically motivated',
but they are ALSO 'morally right'!

And Trump himself has ruined many lives on the basis of less evidence than this, or no evidence whatsoever!

So even if the particular story/lawsuit might have been completely false, I REALLY
DON'T GIVE A FUCK! I will continue to spread it,
because Trump DESERVES it, EVEN IF the charge was invalid!