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hamsterjill

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49. I'd say that's a given. There is just too much here.

Thu Nov 13, 2025, 11:09 PM

Nov 13

It's hard to keep up right now, honestly. I've been reading most of the evening both on DU and on other sites. There is a massive amount of material covering Trump.

There can be no doubt in anyone's mind if they will be honest with themselves that Trump is a pervert and was a major party in all of this.

Now, I'm wondering if he's going to "stroke out" or something and then we are going to have "Elvis sightings" of an orange idiot in the future who has faked his own death. Yeah, I know - I'm going off the deep end, but I cannot see Trump standing trial or being forcibly removed from office. His handlers would figure out something for him, I'm sure.

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It appears Trump knew what Epstein was doing. [View all] surfered Nov 12 OP

Of course he did. And I have to wonder if blackmail or extortion might be involved, Ocelot II Nov 12 #1

my reading of this part of the email is that blackmail was at least hinted at Quiet Em Nov 12 #15

I think Michael Wolf is scum Lifeafter70 Nov 12 #29

Exactly. Quiet Em Nov 12 #32

Yes it was win win for our enemies and the blackmailers. Irish_Dem Nov 12 #44

Epstein, Brunel and Guifre "suicided" Ponietz Nov 12 #2

Robert Maxwell's death was suspicious too IcyPeas Nov 12 #19

Virginia Giuffre's family believes she committed suicide Wiz Imp Nov 12 #28

It's not personal. It is science and detective work. Irish_Dem Nov 12 #45

Her dad doesn't believe it was suicide Blues Heron Nov 13 #50

Her dad abused her. He is not credible. Her brothers and their wives who she was actually very close Wiz Imp Nov 13 #53

We'll never know for sure, it's trump after all, he has killed many many people. Blues Heron Nov 13 #55

Huh? Trump would have no reason to want her dead. Wiz Imp Nov 14 #56

Cool story bro Blues Heron Nov 14 #58

That's an emotion driven response canetoad Nov 14 #59

Huh? Her brother described it here. He's not lying. To suggest otherwise is disgusting. Wiz Imp Nov 14 #60

She would have to have some sort of kill switch Blue Full Moon Nov 13 #52

Trump was complicit Coldwater Nov 12 #3

I would be shocked if Trump's Johonny Nov 12 #4

And his 'modeling agency' Attilatheblond Nov 12 #9

That's what I believe too, I think Trump and Epstein were business partners. Meadowoak Nov 12 #30

That's ***MINIMUM*** Trump knew ... minimum uponit7771 Nov 12 #5

Trump.abused.girls - TBF Nov 12 #6

I don't think it's hard to understand at all. Wiz Imp Nov 12 #31

"Public evidence" - TBF Nov 13 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Nov 13 #54

Another wonderful secret malaise Nov 12 #7

That shouldn't be the headline Johnny2X2X Nov 12 #8

I wonder if the Trump administration will have the chutzpah to distort that karynnj Nov 12 #16

Exactly. What was he doing in the "hours" he spent with one of these girls? Reading her bedtime stories? Texin Nov 12 #18

"they say he participated" Wiz Imp Nov 12 #34

Spent hours alone with her Johnny2X2X Nov 12 #39

You're reading way more into it than is there. Wiz Imp Nov 12 #40

He was profitting off of Epstein's sex trafficing. Chasstev365 Nov 12 #10

Dump is a pimp Clouds Passing Nov 12 #11

Well, some people are saying that its the biggest scandal maybe in the history of forever. Moostache Nov 12 #12

Solid proof of what's been obvious for some time. (nt) Paladin Nov 12 #13

Of course he knew hannah Nov 12 #14

They were only a 5 min. cab ride from each other in NYC, too. GoCubsGo Nov 12 #26

"Trump owned an island next to the two Epstein owned" NOT TRUE Wiz Imp Nov 12 #35

Tip of the iceberg Bluetus Nov 12 #17

YES see my reply #21 below usonian Nov 12 #22

Of course he did. I can picture the two of them sniggering in malicious delight... 3catwoman3 Nov 12 #20

He "inherited" the global Trump/Epstein blackmail empire. usonian Nov 12 #21

I agree, with a footnote Bluetus Nov 12 #23

Totally. usonian Nov 12 #24

MaddowBlog-Newly disclosed Jeffrey Epstein emails complicate matters for Donald Trump LetMyPeopleVote Nov 12 #25

Trump was part of the child sex ring. Supplying girls and getting some of the profits? Irish_Dem Nov 12 #27

Exactly. And if Mr. Grab em by the P----- only knew B.See Nov 12 #42

I consider Michael Wolf to be the Jim Jordon in this affair Lifeafter70 Nov 12 #33

Michael Wolff should have said or done something, BUT he did not have first hand knowledge Wiz Imp Nov 12 #36

No but in.his email he encouraged Lifeafter70 Nov 12 #37

I agree. I'm not defending Wolff and I don't think he is completely trustworthy Wiz Imp Nov 12 #41

DUH MorbidButterflyTat Nov 12 #38

He was profiting off of it . JI7 Nov 12 #43

Jeffrey Epstein said this man was the worst person he'd ever met. Let that sink in. LetMyPeopleVote Nov 13 #46

Of course Blue Full Moon Nov 13 #47

At worst, Epstein was helping Trump to do the same goddamned thing.... Jack Valentino Nov 13 #48

The Johnson claims originated due to the aggressive efforts of a publicist using the false name Al Taylor. Wiz Imp Nov 14 #61

I'd say that's a given. There is just too much here. hamsterjill Nov 13 #49

"Appears." marble falls Nov 14 #57

If there was a billion dollars changing hands... spanone Nov 14 #62