since whenever Trump is mixed up in something there's always a transaction.

He knew and covered and ignored it to make a buck
He also encouraged epstein to use what he had on trump for blackmail.

No one reporting on these emails today have pointed this out.

Wolff is not a good guy.

Epstein was videotaping everything in the rape rooms.
there were huge amounts of money rolling in to Epstein.

Blackmail was primary, the sex ring was the vehicle for the blackmail.

Yes it was win win. Our enemies could make or break the people they were grooming to
hold high US office. Ruin their careers if necessary, if they were not compliant.
Or blackmail them to do their bidding.

Who’s next? Robert Maxwell’s daughter?

He was involved with some bad players.

Her brother found her and tried to resuscitate her. I think it's pretty cruel to question her death as anything but a suicide at this point. To do so would be to call her brother a liar and worse.

We have to go where the data points.

There are other victims to consider if indeed victims are being murdered.
Lives may be in danger.

The father of Virginia Giuffre, one of the most outspoken survivors of Jeffrey Epstein’s sexual abuse, has claimed his daughter did not die by suicide.

Giuffre, 41, died by suicide in Neergabby, Australia last week, according to a statement from her family last week. But now, her father Sky Roberts has questioned that version of events, telling Piers Morgan he believes someone “got to her” Giuffre.

“First of all, I couldn’t even believe it. I mean, I started crying right away,” Roberts said when asked about Giuffre’s death. “I’m still crying. I can’t believe that this is happening. It’s impossible.”

“And then for them to say that she committed suicide, there’s no way that she did,” he continued. “Somebody got to her.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/virginia-giuffre-father-death-cause-b2743303.html

to KNOW she committed suicide. Her father, who she had no contact with for years, is a lying scumbag.

Her brother knows the truth and has made it clear. She committed suicide.

She never said anything bad about him and her family said she supported him in the 2024 election. Trying to pin her death as in any way related to Trump is insane.

Hard facts. Not sentiment.

That birthday card he sent to Epstein in 2002 was very telling.

Beauty pageants weren't funneling young girls into this ring . . . Shocked!

The only energy that hoodlum ever expended was going after any method to get richer quicker. Running a pageant for under aged females and a modeling agency for same was a two-fer for the pervert. He got to engage in his preferred pass time of abusing young females AND make money sending them into the pipeline of indulging other wealthy men's disgusting cravings.

Then there was all the power of having blackmail material to hold over those rich bastard's heads.

When/if the entire Epstein files are released, Trump loses his hold over a LOT of powerful people. Even if he wasn't in the files, he would fight to keep them concealed. But we know he is in there as one of the abusers. He has openly bragged about being able to walk in on naked teens because he owned the pageant.

why is this so hard for people to understand???

But fact is, at this point there is not a single piece of public evidence connecting him to Epstein's illegal activities. On the other hand, there is tons of evidence connecting him to abusing women on his own.

However, there now seems to be further proof that he knew what was going on which means he shares culpability for probably hundreds of girls Epstein victimized. If he had reported Epstein for his heinous activities, he could have saved hundreds of girls from being raped. On top of that, failing to report was itself a crime - a felony.

the emails released today public enough for you?

Got you Mofo!
That is all

The headline should be, "Trump spent hours with one of Epstein's trafficked girls."

These emails don't just say Trump knew, they say he participated.

to suggest that Maxwell and Epstein were concerned that the victim did NOT accuse Trump, who had spent hours with her at his house. They might revive the meme that Trump was somehow trying to investigate and end this.

The timeline may be tricky here as 2011 may be when she provided testimony on events much earlier. Her father had been a Trump employee when she worked at Mara logo. If he still did, that alone could explain why he wasn't mentioned.

No they don't. If you think being present with Epstein in the presence of girls who have accused him of rape means they had to "participate", then you must believe Bill Clinton "participated" as well since he was present on a plane with Epstein and young girls for super long flights to Africa.

I believe if Clinton were guilty of that he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. However, I don't believe he is guilty. And I believe Virginia Giuffre 100% when she said she never observed any wrongdoing from Trump.

that’s what’s implied. Trump and this girl were together for hours. If it was just hanging out while girls were present it would not have been phrased like that.

And beyond that, the subject of their conversation wasn’t hanging out with girls, it was abusing them. They’re saying Trump partook. Clearly.

You've convinced yourself that an email confirms your preconceived opinion (which you have held for a long time prior to its release) when it does not come close to doing so. There is no way Epstein confessed to Michael Wolff that he was guilty of sex trafficking so this email does not mean what you think it does.

I am hearing that he raped underage girls, paid for sex with whores and married one of them, and that he and Epstein were on the down low for group sessions that were quite lewd. At least that what "some people" are saying. These are the same sources that Trump continually cites for nearly all of his claims, so I guess we must just take them at face value and believe it all, right?

They both lived on Palm Beach, which is an 18 mile barrier island. Epstein was busted around 2003 in Palm Beach. Anyone that lived there and around West Palm Beach knew.

And, as I understand it, Trump owned an island next to the two Epstein owned. They were never far apart from each other in those decades where they were "friends." I'm sure plenty of people in those other places knew about it, as well. I wouldn't be surprised if there were ties to his various Trump Tower and Florida Russian money laundering scams here, too. A lot of the victims were young Eastern European women. And, folks wonder what Putin has on him...

Trump has never owned an island. He owns Château des Palmiers, an estate on the French side of the island of Saint Martin.

Jeffrey Epstein's islands are located much further west, near St. Thomas, in the U.S. Virgin Islands, approximately 160 to 190 miles away.

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It is 1000x worse than "Trump knew what Esptein was doing."

1) Trump was a full partner with Epstein and Maxwell.
2) This was an international extortion and money laundering ring that use child sex as bait.
3) Trump sampled the merchandise, and some of the recruiting was done at his house.
4) Trump's main job was to recruit prominent people into the sex trap, and then maybe Epstein and Maxwell took it from there.

Release the files. You will find everything I am saying is true.

and follow the link.
"VICTIM" indeed.

You nailed it.

...like developmentally arrested schoolboys.

Trump definitely was the surviving partner. Was that just good luck or is there more to the "suicide" story? We'll probably never know the full story about that.

But as far as continuing the sex ring, well, Trump has never been very smart of a very hard worker. We at least have to acknowledge that Epstein worked his ass off to make numbers like he did. Trump could never manage anything like this. Remember, everything Trump touched, dies.

So I don't believe he is trying to keep that ring alive, or bring the franchise back by letting Maxwell out of prison. At this stage, Trump has a much better extortion gig going with the tariff machine. So his main interest now is remaining President for 3 more years so he can run the tariff extortion racket, the crypto scams, selling classified information, the meme coins and everything else he is doing to enrich himself off of his position.

He couldn't run a lemonade stand and keep it out of bankruptcy. But extort and blackmail? Yes indeed.

I would so love to see his empire collapse.

I believe that nothing surfaces like dirt. And it will. Much as I detest the love of sleaziness that people harbor, maybe just once, evil will devour evil.

House Democrats released an email in which Epstein wrote that Trump had “spent hours at my house” with one of Epstein’s victims.

Knowing that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein were friends is one thing.

Seeing Epstein’s “of course he knew about the girls” email is something else. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-11-12T15:02:29.023Z

And as one of the perpetrators.

that makes him an ACCOMPLICE.

He knew and ignored it to make a buck.
He also encouraged epstein to use what he had on trump as blackmail.

of what was going on, unlike Trump. And we don't know exactly what Epstein told Michael Wolff. I seriously doubt he confessed to actual sex trafficking to Wolff.

Epstein to use whatever he had against trump for his benifit.
That's slimy as hell.

But I don't think he covered anything up. Since he talked extensively with both Epstein and Trump in interviews, I'd be shocked if he didn't purposely try to play them against each other in order to extract as much information as possible.

The well known footage of those two scumbags publicly drooling over NFL cheerleaders. Owning teen girl beauty pageants. History of sexual assault.

Gee, could he have known??

America's most notorious child rapist, Jeffrey Epstein, said this man was the worst person he'd ever met. Let that sink in.

— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2025-11-14T00:36:45.951Z

— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2025-11-14T00:38:29.744Z

Over 1400 wire transfers of over 1 billion dollars.

Let's go back to the Trump page in the 'Epstein birthday book'....
THEN let's go back to the 'Katie Johnson' lawsuit against Trump...

AI Overview
A lawsuit was filed in 2016 by a woman, identified in court documents by the pseudonyms "Jane Doe" and "Katie Johnson," who alleged Donald Trump raped her when she was 13 years old at a party hosted by Jeffrey Epstein in 1994. The lawsuit was ultimately withdrawn by the plaintiff and did not proceed to trial. There is no indication the file "disappeared"; rather, the legal proceedings ended with the withdrawal of the case.
Key Details of the Lawsuit
Allegations: The plaintiff claimed she was a minor (age 13) when she was sexually and physically abused by both Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein at Epstein's Manhattan residence. A second anonymous witness ("Tiffany Doe&quot also provided a declaration supporting the claims.
Filing and Withdrawal: The woman initially filed a lawsuit in federal court in California in April 2016 without an attorney, which was dismissed in May due to technical errors. A similar complaint was filed in New York in June 2016 and then a third version in September 2016. The New York suit was dropped in November 2016, just days before the presidential election.
Reason for Withdrawal: The plaintiff's attorney at the time, Lisa Bloom, stated that the woman had received numerous threats and was too afraid to speak publicly or continue with the case. The woman had abruptly canceled a planned news conference where she was expected to reveal her identity.
Status: The case was withdrawn before any substantial litigation or evaluation of the evidence occurred, and no legal conclusions were reached regarding the allegations. Trump denied all the allegations, calling them "categorically false" and "politically motivated" fabrications.
The public records of the lawsuit were part of news reports and court filings in 2016 and did not disappear from the legal or public record. The case simply ceased to be an active legal matter when the plaintiff withdrew her complaint

In 2016, investigative reporters tied the Taylor persona to a former "Jerry Springer Show" producer, Norm Lubow. For this story, Lubow confirmed to Snopes he had acted as Taylor and played a role in filing and promoting the Johnson claims. Lubow's involvement does not disprove that Johnson is a real person, but it does show that those claims were aggressively promoted and aided by someone who has a professional history of using individuals to create fictional salacious drama, and that is a fact both he, and lawyers working for the plaintiff, attempted to downplay or hide.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/09/03/trump-epstein-katie-johnson/

It's hard to keep up right now, honestly. I've been reading most of the evening both on DU and on other sites. There is a massive amount of material covering Trump.

There can be no doubt in anyone's mind if they will be honest with themselves that Trump is a pervert and was a major party in all of this.

Now, I'm wondering if he's going to "stroke out" or something and then we are going to have "Elvis sightings" of an orange idiot in the future who has faked his own death. Yeah, I know - I'm going off the deep end, but I cannot see Trump standing trial or being forcibly removed from office. His handlers would figure out something for him, I'm sure.

he was more than likely right in the thick of it.

He has no moral rudder.