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8. 8 defectors, not 5

Reply to pat_k (Original post)

Thu Nov 13, 2025, 09:50 PM

Nov 13

8 cavers were:

Fetterman PA
Hassan NH
Shaheen NH (retiring)
Cortez Masto NV
Rosen NV
King (I) ME
Durbin IL (retiring)
Kaine VA

None are up for re-election in 2026.

Plus 6 conservadems in the House also defected:

Jared Golden (D-Maine)
Adam Gray (D-Calif.)
Don Davis (D-N.C.)
Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (D-Wash.)
Tom Suozzi (D-N.Y.)
Henry Cuellar (D-Texas.)

Those 6 voted Yes, in support of the cave-in bill.

Josh Gottheimer was the only one of my 6 least favourite House Dems to vote No, but Blue Dog Whip Adam Gray took his spot and voted Yes.

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"They pissed in the punch bowl while we were still at the party" -Unnamed Senate Dem [View all] pat_k Nov 12 OP

I blame Schumer. dem4decades Nov 12 #1

thanks , pat rampartd Nov 12 #2

Areilla Elm's daily "Dems doing the work day xxx" posts, Heather Cox Richardson's... pat_k Nov 12 #3

Thank you. yellow dahlia Nov 13 #5

Thanks for shares. yellow dahlia Nov 13 #4

And thanks for the kick! pat_k Nov 13 #6

DURec leftstreet Nov 13 #7

8 defectors, not 5 Celerity Nov 13 #8

3 were never on board so they couldn't really defect. pat_k Nov 13 #10

The first 3 were just early defectors from the rest of our party, but defectors nonetheless Celerity Nov 14 #11

True. But somehow this "Sunday night massacre" of principle sure felt like it was orchestrated by Jeanne Shaheen... pat_k Nov 14 #13

And Jonathan Karl said last night on Colbert newdeal2 Nov 13 #9

Standing strong on principle is hard as hell. pat_k Nov 14 #12

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