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LetMyPeopleVote

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52. The Democrats did achieve some concessions
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 07:18 PM
Thursday

These Democrats did get three things: (i) funding of the food assistance program known as SNAP for the rest of the fiscal year through September 2026, (ii) the Trump administration agreed to reinstate federal workers who were laid off during the shutdown through reductions in force, or RIFs and (iii) a “minibus” of three appropriations bills, which will fund some parts of the government through next fall including the FAA. There is likely to be another shutdown after this deal expires on Jan. 30, 2026 and so these concessions are meaningful to some groups..

What Democrats say they won in the 43-day government shutdown www.nbcnews.com/politics/con... /jmho we , dems, didn’t win 😐we would have won IF we didn’t fold /cave give up 🤷🏽‍♀️ but here we are 🙇🏽‍♀️ is it too much to ask that we stop being cowards & get some f’ing steel in our spine FFS 🤦🏽‍♀️

Nikki (@varivergirl.bsky.social) 2025-11-12T11:34:26.853Z

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-wins-shutdown-fight-health-care-obamacare-subsidies-trump-rcna243211

Among the eight Senate Democrats who struck a deal with the White House and Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., four were former governors — pragmatists used to working across the aisle who argue you don’t always get what you want in legislation.

The agreement includes a “minibus” of three appropriations bills, which will fund some parts of the government through next fall. The rest of the government will be funded through Jan. 30.

The deal includes funding of the food assistance program known as SNAP for the rest of the fiscal year through September 2026, meaning families will be fed and food stamps can’t be used as leverage in any funding fight in the coming months.

The group of eight also got some wins for federal workers, who have been under siege since Trump’s inauguration, facing aggressive Department of Government Efficiency cuts and the consolidation of some agencies, like the U.S. Agency for International Development.

They got the Trump administration to agree to reinstate federal workers who were laid off during the shutdown through reductions in force, or RIFs. And they secured language barring future mass firings for the duration of the resolution that keeps the government open through January.

It’s a win for “federal employees who are not going to be traumatized by RIFs going forward,” said Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine, the former governor of Virginia, a state home to nearly 150,000 civilian federal workers.

“I’ve got some folks who didn’t like the vote, but I’m going to have a whole lot of federal employees who are going back to work and they’re getting their paychecks, and they can live through the holidays without worrying that they’re going to get a bad email at 5 a.m. tomorrow morning that they’re laid off.”

They have been living under a cloud of anxiety since Jan. 20, and we’ve lifted that cloud to some degree,” Kaine added.

Again, the ACA issue is not going away and I believe that there will be another shutdown in February. These concessions are helpful for some key groups if there is another shutdown in February.

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I'm with you. There's no need to smear fellow Democrats. Walleye Thursday #1
My thought is that dissing Demos just might not be Demos but masquerading as such Stargazer99 Thursday #4
Whether masquerading or not, such argumentation is, imo B.See Thursday #48
A few weeks ago I started following online discussion groups where federal employees gather... OneGrassRoot Thursday #2
I agree. I know three people affected. hamsterjill Thursday #7
Ok we bitched a lot snowybirdie Thursday #3
Getting the ACA tax credit extended is critical. CentralMass Thursday #27
And how the fuck do we do that now? The eight and Schumer are completely Demsrule86 17 hrs ago #62
I'm with you, gab13by13 Thursday #5
DURec leftstreet Thursday #6
I don't think anyone on the left wanted anyone SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #8
But they will still suffer consequences. Demsrule86 Thursday #30
Affluent white people never suffer SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #34
It will not be fine. And the recipients are not Demsrule86 Thursday #46
The people I'm talking about are Green voters SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #47
This is the issue. Those on the far left care as Demsrule86 Thursday #35
They need to stop insulting us SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #37
I don't know whether or not it was best to continue the shutdown ... Intractable Thursday #9
I agree wholeheartedly luv2fly Thursday #10
Did you give the same admonishment in reverse? EdmondDantes_ Thursday #11
If *I* did that, hamsterjill Thursday #12
The eight, including Schumer, also cared that people not suffer hunger, and so they made the 271 ancianita Thursday #15
Trump has reneged on most of that. No doubt Demsrule86 Thursday #33
I never said any Democrat was okay with people going hungry EdmondDantes_ Thursday #22
No I understand being conflicted but what was Demsrule86 Thursday #32
Your post 38 proves my point EdmondDantes_ Thursday #43
Yes and no...now that it is clear that the compromise was a dismal failure...there Demsrule86 17 hrs ago #61
All I will say is this... S/V Loner Thursday #13
So that is more important than the ACA. Demsrule86 Thursday #38
Of course the ACA is important but... S/V Loner Thursday #40
The Dems were on track: short-term pain for long-term gain. cer7711 Thursday #14
Nope. The on-track Dems made the 271 blink. They knew that it would ease hunger & suffering, but ancianita Thursday #16
May I be very frank with you? hamsterjill Thursday #25
It's called General Discussion. Long winded? Or short attention span? I take Dems seriously. ancianita Thursday #28
It won't ease suffering. Trump is a liar. Demsrule86 Thursday #39
Of course Trump is a liar. But congress people see all the polls and attitudes are shifting ancianita Thursday #44
I don't think anyone wanted those things to happen. But we can't pretend it wasn't a consequence of a continued shutdown tritsofme Thursday #17
Exactly angrychair Thursday #18
I was apoplectic when the Democratics caved crimycarny Thursday #19
The "all is well despite the way it looks!" cheerleading and long screeds are increasingly ludicrous. Scrivener7 Thursday #20
Scrivener, are you sure we aren't related? hamsterjill Thursday #23
We are! Scrivener7 Thursday #24
And yes, yes, yes!!!! As to the long screeds. hamsterjill Thursday #26
the pro cave-in scolding/gaslighting is the new pro Garland scolding/gaslighting Celerity Thursday #45
I bowed out of those discussions after a few days Torchlight Thursday #21
I need SNAP and still have no benefits as of now, but.. mvd Thursday #29
Thank you for your insight. hamsterjill Thursday #31
This message was self-deleted by its author mvd Friday #56
It's really just the reverse of people falsely claiming "Democrats voted to take away healthcare". QueerDuck Thursday #36
But you see 8 democrats plus Schumer did Demsrule86 Thursday #42
... or something. 🤣😂 QueerDuck Thursday #49
Love your name...rec'd you and the post too! Demsrule86 18 hrs ago #58
Honestly, I've not seen any posts saying that Democrats voted to take away healthcare. hamsterjill Thursday #50
And none of us wants anyone to go without health insurance, or have their premiums skyrocket, or go without insurance. Sogo Thursday #41
No, we don't have to not lose faith. hamsterjill Thursday #51
The Democrats did achieve some concessions LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #52
Rah rah. Scrivener7 Thursday #53
The next shutdown is coming LetMyPeopleVote Friday #57
There is no current funding...everyone millions and millions of snap users must reapply. Demsrule86 17 hrs ago #60
If someone's post is that offensive to you. MorbidButterflyTat Friday #54
I'm flattered. hamsterjill Friday #55
The only way it would have worked was to nail the GOP and make impossible for them Demsrule86 17 hrs ago #59
With regard to the OP, my initial response B.See 17 hrs ago #63
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