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Demsrule86

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46. It will not be fine. And the recipients are not

Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:01 PM

Nov 13

All rich nor white. The monthly bills will be in the thousands. Who can afford it? Without participants the ACA will fail. Gone forever I fear. We are going back to 2021 numbers- and consider health costs did not come down after Covid. The support was still needed. It kills me to see my beloved Democratic Party involved in killing our only health care plan for the under 65 folks. A plan despised by the GOP and Trump - always hated by them. And our party helped.

I must say that rich and white talk made me a little sick. That remark was both untrue, disturbing and uncalled for I think. Have a nice day.

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None of us wanted people to go hungry or without pay. [View all] hamsterjill Nov 13 OP

I'm with you. There's no need to smear fellow Democrats. Walleye Nov 13 #1

My thought is that dissing Demos just might not be Demos but masquerading as such Stargazer99 Nov 13 #4

Whether masquerading or not, such argumentation is, imo B.See Nov 13 #48

A few weeks ago I started following online discussion groups where federal employees gather... OneGrassRoot Nov 13 #2

I agree. I know three people affected. hamsterjill Nov 13 #7

Ok we bitched a lot snowybirdie Nov 13 #3

Getting the ACA tax credit extended is critical. CentralMass Nov 13 #27

And how the fuck do we do that now? The eight and Schumer are completely Demsrule86 Monday #62

I'm with you, gab13by13 Nov 13 #5

DURec leftstreet Nov 13 #6

I don't think anyone on the left wanted anyone SocialDemocrat61 Nov 13 #8

But they will still suffer consequences. Demsrule86 Nov 13 #30

Affluent white people never suffer SocialDemocrat61 Nov 13 #34

It will not be fine. And the recipients are not Demsrule86 Nov 13 #46

The people I'm talking about are Green voters SocialDemocrat61 Nov 13 #47

This is the issue. Those on the far left care as Demsrule86 Nov 13 #35

They need to stop insulting us SocialDemocrat61 Nov 13 #37

I don't know whether or not it was best to continue the shutdown ... Intractable Nov 13 #9

I agree wholeheartedly luv2fly Nov 13 #10

Did you give the same admonishment in reverse? EdmondDantes_ Nov 13 #11

If *I* did that, hamsterjill Nov 13 #12

The eight, including Schumer, also cared that people not suffer hunger, and so they made the 271 ancianita Nov 13 #15

Trump has reneged on most of that. No doubt Demsrule86 Nov 13 #33

I never said any Democrat was okay with people going hungry EdmondDantes_ Nov 13 #22

No I understand being conflicted but what was Demsrule86 Nov 13 #32

Your post 38 proves my point EdmondDantes_ Nov 13 #43

Yes and no...now that it is clear that the compromise was a dismal failure...there Demsrule86 Monday #61

All I will say is this... S/V Loner Nov 13 #13

So that is more important than the ACA. Demsrule86 Nov 13 #38

Of course the ACA is important but... S/V Loner Nov 13 #40

The Dems were on track: short-term pain for long-term gain. cer7711 Nov 13 #14

Nope. The on-track Dems made the 271 blink. They knew that it would ease hunger & suffering, but ancianita Nov 13 #16

May I be very frank with you? hamsterjill Nov 13 #25

It's called General Discussion. Long winded? Or short attention span? I take Dems seriously. ancianita Nov 13 #28

It won't ease suffering. Trump is a liar. Demsrule86 Nov 13 #39

Of course Trump is a liar. But congress people see all the polls and attitudes are shifting ancianita Nov 13 #44

I don't think anyone wanted those things to happen. But we can't pretend it wasn't a consequence of a continued shutdown tritsofme Nov 13 #17

Exactly angrychair Nov 13 #18

I was apoplectic when the Democratics caved crimycarny Nov 13 #19

The "all is well despite the way it looks!" cheerleading and long screeds are increasingly ludicrous. Scrivener7 Nov 13 #20

Scrivener, are you sure we aren't related? hamsterjill Nov 13 #23

We are! Scrivener7 Nov 13 #24

And yes, yes, yes!!!! As to the long screeds. hamsterjill Nov 13 #26

the pro cave-in scolding/gaslighting is the new pro Garland scolding/gaslighting Celerity Nov 13 #45

I bowed out of those discussions after a few days Torchlight Nov 13 #21

I need SNAP and still have no benefits as of now, but.. mvd Nov 13 #29

Thank you for your insight. hamsterjill Nov 13 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author mvd Nov 14 #56

It's really just the reverse of people falsely claiming "Democrats voted to take away healthcare". QueerDuck Nov 13 #36

But you see 8 democrats plus Schumer did Demsrule86 Nov 13 #42

... or something. 🤣😂 QueerDuck Nov 13 #49

Love your name...rec'd you and the post too! Demsrule86 Monday #58

Honestly, I've not seen any posts saying that Democrats voted to take away healthcare. hamsterjill Nov 13 #50

And none of us wants anyone to go without health insurance, or have their premiums skyrocket, or go without insurance. Sogo Nov 13 #41

No, we don't have to not lose faith. hamsterjill Nov 13 #51

The Democrats did achieve some concessions LetMyPeopleVote Nov 13 #52

Rah rah. Scrivener7 Nov 13 #53

The next shutdown is coming LetMyPeopleVote Nov 14 #57

There is no current funding...everyone millions and millions of snap users must reapply. Demsrule86 Monday #60

If someone's post is that offensive to you. MorbidButterflyTat Nov 14 #54

I'm flattered. hamsterjill Nov 14 #55

The only way it would have worked was to nail the GOP and make impossible for them Demsrule86 Monday #59

With regard to the OP, my initial response B.See Monday #63