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36. What Democrats say they won in the 43-day government shutdown
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:44 PM
Nov 13

These Democrats did get three things: (i) funding of the food assistance program known as SNAP for the rest of the fiscal year through September 2026, (ii) the Trump administration agreed to reinstate federal workers who were laid off during the shutdown through reductions in force, or RIFs and (iii) a “minibus” of three appropriations bills, which will fund some parts of the government through next fall including the FAA. There is likely to be another shutdown after this deal expires on Jan. 30, 2026 and so these concessions are meaningful to some groups..

What Democrats say they won in the 43-day government shutdown www.nbcnews.com/politics/con... /jmho we , dems, didn’t win 😐we would have won IF we didn’t fold /cave give up 🤷🏽‍♀️ but here we are 🙇🏽‍♀️ is it too much to ask that we stop being cowards & get some f’ing steel in our spine FFS 🤦🏽‍♀️

Nikki (@varivergirl.bsky.social) 2025-11-12T11:34:26.853Z

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-wins-shutdown-fight-health-care-obamacare-subsidies-trump-rcna243211

Among the eight Senate Democrats who struck a deal with the White House and Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., four were former governors — pragmatists used to working across the aisle who argue you don’t always get what you want in legislation.

The agreement includes a “minibus” of three appropriations bills, which will fund some parts of the government through next fall. The rest of the government will be funded through Jan. 30.

The deal includes funding of the food assistance program known as SNAP for the rest of the fiscal year through September 2026, meaning families will be fed and food stamps can’t be used as leverage in any funding fight in the coming months.

The group of eight also got some wins for federal workers, who have been under siege since Trump’s inauguration, facing aggressive Department of Government Efficiency cuts and the consolidation of some agencies, like the U.S. Agency for International Development.

They got the Trump administration to agree to reinstate federal workers who were laid off during the shutdown through reductions in force, or RIFs. And they secured language barring future mass firings for the duration of the resolution that keeps the government open through January.

It’s a win for “federal employees who are not going to be traumatized by RIFs going forward,” said Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine, the former governor of Virginia, a state home to nearly 150,000 civilian federal workers.

“I’ve got some folks who didn’t like the vote, but I’m going to have a whole lot of federal employees who are going back to work and they’re getting their paychecks, and they can live through the holidays without worrying that they’re going to get a bad email at 5 a.m. tomorrow morning that they’re laid off.”

They have been living under a cloud of anxiety since Jan. 20, and we’ve lifted that cloud to some degree,” Kaine added.

Again, the ACA issue is not going away and I believe that there will be another shutdown in February. These concessions are helpful for some key groups if there is another shutdown in February.

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No one making $10s of millions a year is going to convince me that the cutthroat backstabbing vote was a good thing. Nt yaesu Nov 11 #1
Which is, strangely, exactly what Lawrence O'Donnell tried to do last night. BComplex Nov 11 #18
I believe Dem messaging gets diluted by attempt to appeal to a wide audience bucolic_frolic Nov 11 #2
Understood. To offer more clarity about what I envision... OneGrassRoot Nov 11 #3
That -- and our fascist friendly media that has been fully exposed. W_HAMILTON Nov 11 #22
"Social media is powerful." markodochartaigh Nov 11 #4
Bernie and AOC seem to know how to message. Raven123 Nov 11 #5
Yep. It is. n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 11 #6
Couldn't agree more. Yes, republicans control the airwaves. But they have for 40 years. Scrivener7 Nov 11 #7
This part: OneGrassRoot Nov 11 #8
I think we are starved for it. There's a lot of "we the people must rise up" talk, but frankly I find that childish. Scrivener7 Nov 11 #11
How about we attack the media (rather than Democrats) like Republicans did to bias them in the first place? W_HAMILTON Nov 11 #23
Rah rah! All is well! Everything we are doing is working GREAT!!! And Garland's got this!!! Scrivener7 Nov 11 #24
That is your response to me saying we should go after the media the way Republicans did? W_HAMILTON Nov 11 #25
Yes! Cirsium Nov 11 #26
You think we would be """misbehaving""" by rightfully calling out fascist friendly media? W_HAMILTON Nov 11 #27
No Cirsium Nov 11 #28
It actually was, based on the point I was making vs your attempted retort. W_HAMILTON Nov 12 #34
OK Cirsium Nov 12 #35
Lawrence O'Donnel was great last night LetMyPeopleVote Nov 11 #9
Senator Chris Murphy was better. And I'm thinking he's in a better position to know. Scrivener7 Nov 11 #12
Chris Murphy is a great communicator and explainer. I sing his praises often. yellow dahlia Nov 11 #29
Well said. He's so sincere and that conveys. n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 12 #32
Yes. He is a defender of the Constitution and our Democracy. yellow dahlia Nov 12 #33
Yup, agree 100% Joinfortmill Nov 11 #10
Keith Olbermann has been saying this for months Greyhead Nov 11 #13
They need to hire professional marketing/advertising firms that do it ALL: print, television, social media, even LaMouffette Nov 11 #14
100% correct. CaptainTruth Nov 11 #15
YES. I "want to hear directly from those we elect in a coordinated, cohesive manner." EVERY DAY. chia Nov 11 #16
KnR. Well stated @OneGrassRoot. n/t iluvtennis Nov 11 #17
My suggestion for the past several months is holding a Press Conference Every Other Day. Why?.... electric_blue68 Nov 11 #19
I like it! And time for the podcasts to discuss it. n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 11 #20
Thanks! Ah, didn't think of that (pod cast discussion). electric_blue68 Nov 11 #21
And IMHO - Dems need to fire the strategists. yellow dahlia Nov 11 #30
💯 n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 12 #31
What Democrats say they won in the 43-day government shutdown LetMyPeopleVote Nov 13 #36
Hi. Thank you... OneGrassRoot Nov 13 #37
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