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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOn Dem messaging, Lawrence O'Donnell, and even Heather Cox Richardson and the like...
(I rarely post on DU anymore even though I had my 20-year anniversary in August. I do read, however. I feel strongly enough about this to try to keep making the point that Dems need a much better messaging strategy, and I'm obviously not the first nor alone in that suggestion. It is a longstanding problem.)
Anticipating a lot of posts expressing frustration about Sunday night's deal, with the nearly automatic responses saying "What do you want them to DO? They aren't in power," I wrote an OP yesterday offering my suggestion of what I would like to see the Dems do.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20790893
In various threads over the last day I've seen wonderful DUers offer proof that Dems are trying to get their message out but the media ignores them. I've also seen suggestions to watch this person or listen to that person because they explain what REALLY happened Sunday night and the optimistic implications that should ease any frustrations we may feel.
(I want to add that I think the timing of the deal adds to the frustration. Regardless of any logical reasons behind it, what feels like a concession came directly on the heels of a Dem blowout. For me, it was deflating.)
Like it or not, optics matter. Especially in today's world.
It's very easy to be in a bubble nowadays, often without realizing it. I may be wrong and no doubt many will disagree, but I feel very strongly that the old ways of communication won't work. Democrats need a cohesive, simplified, CONSISTENT, daily presser/briefing/whateveryouwannacallit done by our best communicators. The various other pressers are fragmented and often ignored. They are a traditional approach, we need something fresh.
And it needs to be done NOT to attract traditional media attention - because, really, fuck them at this point and they are always going to shit on Dems - but to reach voters directly. ETA: If it gains traction, traditional media will eventually cover it. That's more often than not how it happens nowadays, it seems.
Social media is powerful. It can and is certainly misused and abused. But there are savvy people who know how to use it: Newsome's social media team, AOC, Crockett and others. When done right, that can gain a lot of attention, with voters getting the info daily, reliably, from people who can convey the reality of what is going on and what their plan is. Many of us obviously feel that, at the very least as communicators, current leadership isn't it. With daily, reliable, coherent content provided by excellent, non-egghead communicators who are engaging and can reach many demographics, it can be shared and amplified across every platform. That's how we can start to gain control of the narrative. (ETA: Heck, it could even be in the form of a live Zoom, with an elected Dem representative, senator and governor -- cover all bases.)
The former journalists many of us followed and respect who were fired from MSM have major audiences on YouTube and substack, with that content shared across other platforms. They are perhaps more successful now, with even more eyeballs than when they were on MSM. Some people can keep trying to get MSM to change but, personally, I'm ignoring them and have for the last year and don't anticipate that changing until something major shifts in the zeitgeist.
Watching Lawrence and others is great; watching and reading Heather Cox Richardson is great. There are many other pundits and experts on this policy or that policy and history who are great. All of that is helpful to be part of our daily diet.
HOWEVER. More and more of us want to hear directly from those we elect in a coordinated, cohesive manner. Instead of Lawrence and Heather and others explaining the likely strategy behind Sunday's decision, let good Dem communicators do it via a briefing. And make such a briefing daily. (I realize there is currently a bit of fracturing and that may be hard at this very moment, but we need them to figure out how to communicate what has and is happening to us and not rely on media to explain. Because, no matter what expertise they have, most of the people we tend to follow are simply offering their educated opinion.)
There are myriad wise media people to follow. Many, perhaps most now, of our Dems have their own social media accounts.
I am an avid consumer of political content and it is even becoming like white noise to me!!! And if it feels that way to me, the average person is surely tuning it all out.
Suggesting that people watch this person or watch the various pressers on C-Span which you know very few people are watching isn't going to help the problem with Democratic messaging and the need for us to CONTROL THE NARRATIVE.
I'm thinking way beyond the DU bubble. We all should be, most definitely elected Democrats and their advisers.
We need much, much more at this point. We need to have clarity from the Dems themselves, conveyed with the entire electorate in mind, and our job is then to amplify that messaging.
yaesu
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BComplex
(9,681 posts)I was throwing things at the tv.
bucolic_frolic
(53,351 posts)So many sectors to our base, so many things to say, so many things that could offend one or a several, plus the candidates have their own beliefs. My theory being this is what's behind our messaging and how it's built.
OneGrassRoot
(23,923 posts)It isn't so much the content. We need clarity but, as you say, it needs to be focused, clear, and as simplified as possible. Similar to the Mamdani approach.
The STYLE and VEHICLE of that messaging is where I think a talented communicator can reach various demographics. That's what needs to change.
W_HAMILTON
(9,920 posts)Even organizations that we thought were at least somewhat reputable sometimes, you can pretty much go down the list and see how they have since cozied up to the fascists in power.
markodochartaigh
(4,674 posts)I think that this can be the modern equivalent of the old colonial broadsheets, informing and activating the electorate.
In my opinion the root of our political problems is not only the actual authoritarianism of one third of our electorate, but the apathy and ignorance of another third. And the only one of these problems which we are likely to improve is the latter.
Raven123
(7,338 posts)There are good messengers. Our governors are good messengers. The template is there.
OneGrassRoot
(23,923 posts)Scrivener7
(57,897 posts)40 years should have been enough time for us to acknowledge it and create a workaround.
There are examples of people doing it successfully.
Newsom for one.
And, say what you will about him, but Cuomo's daily briefings on Youtube during Covid gave us all hope, a feeling that we had some control, and a feeling we could be informed and coordinated about how to combat the spread.
It can be done. But we insist on beating our heads against a 40 year old brick wall. And the a small posse of fellow DUers who point us to lists of press releases and say, "What else can they DO?? They've done all these THINGS! You're just not looking in the right PLACES! Everything they're doing is FINE!!" are not helping
OneGrassRoot
(23,923 posts)"...gave us all hope, a feeling that we had some control, and a feeling we could be informed and coordinated about how to combat the spread."
THAT would be an immediate benefit. We need this. We shouldn't have to search so hard to find information and guidance, or hope.
Thanks!
Scrivener7
(57,897 posts)Of course we should, but that doesn't happen in a vacuum. It doesn't happen unless there's a focal point and coordination. We are all dying to "rise up." But unless someone is showing us how to all do it together, we are each spitting into the wind.
And that is their JOB, for God's sake. They sought our votes with the implicit promise that they would lead us. We all have other jobs. Effective communication and galvanization of the electorate is THEIR job.
They have not been doing that part of their job for a very long time.
W_HAMILTON
(9,920 posts)Scrivener7
(57,897 posts)How's that? Better?
W_HAMILTON
(9,920 posts)And I didn't support Garland -- I actually go after those that are most responsible for where we are today, and his slow-walking the Trump investigations was certainly up there as well.
When the school called us in because our kid was misbehaving, our immediate response was "oh yeah? What about our neighbor's kid? He is much worse!"
W_HAMILTON
(9,920 posts)Not what I said at all.
W_HAMILTON
(9,920 posts)Not worth fighting over.
LetMyPeopleVote
(173,008 posts)Scrivener7
(57,897 posts)"There's no way to defend this," Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut said in a video on X. "And you are right to be angry about it. I'm angry about it."
yellow dahlia
(4,051 posts)He is genuine and smart. He doesn't just recite platitudinal formulaic talking points. He engages.
OneGrassRoot
(23,923 posts)yellow dahlia
(4,051 posts)He is genuine - not just a politician.
Joinfortmill
(19,584 posts)Greyhead
(156 posts)That the Dems should have a legislator in front of the media every Sunday Morning for a press conference.
At first there wont be a lot of coverage but if the message is loud, clear and spot on as what is in the news cycle, finally the msm will pick it up.
OneGrassRoot and has hit the nail squarely on the head.
LaMouffette
(2,552 posts)coordinate live events. Professional spin artists/marketers/commercial creators/event producers who get paid millions because they are THAT good.
This seems so obvious! Why haven't the DNC and the Dems in Congress done this yet? Or have they, but they hired ineffective marketing/advertising firms?
CaptainTruth
(8,006 posts)The right-wing propaganda machine messages circles around us & sadly many voters are influenced more by what they're told than what a politician or party actually does.
That's reality & if we want to win we have to succeed in that reality.
chia
(2,724 posts)iluvtennis
(21,412 posts)electric_blue68
(25,049 posts)Every day might be too much for average person vs news/political "junkies" [like us! 😉]. And we want more audience!
Every other day lets average viewers & listeners absorb, and think on things.
Pick maybe 2 major topics each presser. And add the Epstein files issue in, too.
OneGrassRoot
(23,923 posts)electric_blue68
(25,049 posts)yellow dahlia
(4,051 posts)I believe the consultant class is behind some of the mistakes made in the past.
OneGrassRoot
(23,923 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(173,008 posts)These Democrats did get three things: (i) funding of the food assistance program known as SNAP for the rest of the fiscal year through September 2026, (ii) the Trump administration agreed to reinstate federal workers who were laid off during the shutdown through reductions in force, or RIFs and (iii) a minibus of three appropriations bills, which will fund some parts of the government through next fall including the FAA. There is likely to be another shutdown after this deal expires on Jan. 30, 2026 and so these concessions are meaningful to some groups..
What Democrats say they won in the 43-day government shutdown www.nbcnews.com/politics/con... /jmho we , dems, didnât win ðwe would have won IF we didnât fold /cave give up ð¤·ð½ââï¸ but here we are ðð½ââï¸ is it too much to ask that we stop being cowards & get some fâing steel in our spine FFS ð¤¦ð½ââï¸
— Nikki (@varivergirl.bsky.social) 2025-11-12T11:34:26.853Z
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-wins-shutdown-fight-health-care-obamacare-subsidies-trump-rcna243211
The agreement includes a minibus of three appropriations bills, which will fund some parts of the government through next fall. The rest of the government will be funded through Jan. 30.
The deal includes funding of the food assistance program known as SNAP for the rest of the fiscal year through September 2026, meaning families will be fed and food stamps cant be used as leverage in any funding fight in the coming months.
The group of eight also got some wins for federal workers, who have been under siege since Trumps inauguration, facing aggressive Department of Government Efficiency cuts and the consolidation of some agencies, like the U.S. Agency for International Development.
They got the Trump administration to agree to reinstate federal workers who were laid off during the shutdown through reductions in force, or RIFs. And they secured language barring future mass firings for the duration of the resolution that keeps the government open through January.
Its a win for federal employees who are not going to be traumatized by RIFs going forward, said Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine, the former governor of Virginia, a state home to nearly 150,000 civilian federal workers.
Ive got some folks who didnt like the vote, but Im going to have a whole lot of federal employees who are going back to work and theyre getting their paychecks, and they can live through the holidays without worrying that theyre going to get a bad email at 5 a.m. tomorrow morning that theyre laid off.
They have been living under a cloud of anxiety since Jan. 20, and weve lifted that cloud to some degree, Kaine added.
Again, the ACA issue is not going away and I believe that there will be another shutdown in February. These concessions are helpful for some key groups if there is another shutdown in February.
OneGrassRoot
(23,923 posts)Even though I admitted my personal frustration (the high post election to the rather surprising Sunday night development and how it developed), this post wasn't a critique of the shutdown.
As I mentioned right away in my OP, I was anticipating the brouhaha that would manifest and wanted to address the people who tend to respond to DUers expressing frustration with "What do you want Dems to do? They aren't in power."
That's what my post was about. But, certainly, the concessions are no doubt helpful and meaningful for some key groups. Absolutely.