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61. What Democrats say they won in the 43-day government shutdown
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:43 PM
Nov 13

These Democrats did get three things: (i) funding of the food assistance program known as SNAP for the rest of the fiscal year through September 2026, (ii) the Trump administration agreed to reinstate federal workers who were laid off during the shutdown through reductions in force, or RIFs and (iii) a “minibus” of three appropriations bills, which will fund some parts of the government through next fall including the FAA. There is likely to be another shutdown after this deal expires on Jan. 30, 2026 and so these concessions are meaningful to some groups..

What Democrats say they won in the 43-day government shutdown www.nbcnews.com/politics/con... /jmho we , dems, didn’t win 😐we would have won IF we didn’t fold /cave give up 🤷🏽‍♀️ but here we are 🙇🏽‍♀️ is it too much to ask that we stop being cowards & get some f’ing steel in our spine FFS 🤦🏽‍♀️

Nikki (@varivergirl.bsky.social) 2025-11-12T11:34:26.853Z

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-wins-shutdown-fight-health-care-obamacare-subsidies-trump-rcna243211

Among the eight Senate Democrats who struck a deal with the White House and Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., four were former governors — pragmatists used to working across the aisle who argue you don’t always get what you want in legislation.

The agreement includes a “minibus” of three appropriations bills, which will fund some parts of the government through next fall. The rest of the government will be funded through Jan. 30.

The deal includes funding of the food assistance program known as SNAP for the rest of the fiscal year through September 2026, meaning families will be fed and food stamps can’t be used as leverage in any funding fight in the coming months.

The group of eight also got some wins for federal workers, who have been under siege since Trump’s inauguration, facing aggressive Department of Government Efficiency cuts and the consolidation of some agencies, like the U.S. Agency for International Development.

They got the Trump administration to agree to reinstate federal workers who were laid off during the shutdown through reductions in force, or RIFs. And they secured language barring future mass firings for the duration of the resolution that keeps the government open through January.

It’s a win for “federal employees who are not going to be traumatized by RIFs going forward,” said Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine, the former governor of Virginia, a state home to nearly 150,000 civilian federal workers.

“I’ve got some folks who didn’t like the vote, but I’m going to have a whole lot of federal employees who are going back to work and they’re getting their paychecks, and they can live through the holidays without worrying that they’re going to get a bad email at 5 a.m. tomorrow morning that they’re laid off.”

They have been living under a cloud of anxiety since Jan. 20, and we’ve lifted that cloud to some degree,” Kaine added.

Again, the ACA issue is not going away and I believe that there will be another shutdown in February. These concessions are helpful for some key groups if there is another shutdown in February.

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Listen to him. Republicans caved not Democrats. Srkdqltr Nov 10 #1
HE'S RIGHT. ancianita Nov 10 #18
They killed the ACA. Demsrule86 Nov 11 #50
He's giving an alternative perspective on the "deal" - Republicans "caved" spooky3 Nov 10 #2
Bullshit. choie Nov 10 #4
Have a nice day! nt spooky3 Nov 10 #5
Post removed Post removed Nov 10 #9
He also said that John Glenn was the 1st person to orbit the earth Layzeebeaver Nov 11 #38
John Glenn was not the first person to orbit the earth! Layzeebeaver Nov 11 #39
We lost healthcare... likely forever. Demsrule86 Nov 11 #51
They did not get SNAP increased. choie Nov 10 #3
Got current payment levels restored. Whether that matters enough depends one's perspective. Silent Type Nov 10 #10
increased BACK to what is already mandated by law, Jack Valentino Nov 11 #29
It was fully restored and guaranteed through September of 2026. That's a big deal. SunSeeker Nov 11 #35
SNAP was always going to be avialable through September 30, 2026. choie Nov 11 #48
Wrong. SNAP ran out of money Nov. 1. SunSeeker Nov 11 #53
That was due to the shutdown. choie Nov 11 #55
In past shutdowns, SNAP was always paid out of emergency funds. Not this time. SunSeeker Nov 11 #57
Love Lawrence, but he's full of shit tonight Jersey Devil Nov 10 #6
Is that what happened? mr715 Nov 10 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #8
Remember: Being a woman Bettie Nov 10 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #17
This is why I don't watch garbage like MSNow or whatever the fuck it's called now fujiyamasan Nov 10 #11
I used to like Lawrence, but he now takes the easy path to popularity - just tells the base what they want to hear. Midwestern Democrat Nov 11 #40
Thanks for the rundown fujiyamasan Nov 11 #41
Totally on point. 👍nt Raine Nov 11 #43
Adding Ali Velshi, always try and catch his show. nt cliffside Nov 11 #54
TY for LO'D, ellen. I'll have to catch it Cha Nov 10 #12
CRITICAL, Cha. elleng Nov 10 #15
Here you go: Rhiannon12866 Nov 11 #21
lol... I just got your link and Cha Nov 11 #25
There was only one with Lawrence O'Donnell tonight, just his monologue, MSNBC didn't upload any guests Rhiannon12866 Nov 11 #28
Ah, I see now... jcmaine72 Nov 10 #13
I'm playing tiddlywinks COL Mustard Nov 11 #32
Tell it to the sick people who won't be able to afford healthcare. One DUer says this will Scrivener7 Nov 10 #14
sweet! did they also accomplish the thing that was their goal they told us about for the last 40 days? Takket Nov 10 #19
Maybe I'm misinformed, but I think that all would have happened without the shutdown. Ilikepurple Nov 11 #20
Here's Lawrence O'Donnell, for those who missed it: Rhiannon12866 Nov 11 #22
Oh but what about my unicorn!!!!1!11! (sarcasm) MorbidButterflyTat Nov 11 #23
Healthcare is a unicorn now. Great. Scrivener7 Nov 11 #45
LOL popsdenver Nov 11 #24
well, we got a lot of promises, that's it though it is comforting that he's letting US know how good we have it yaesu Nov 11 #26
It's excellent! betsuni Nov 11 #27
So what is it? The Democrats accomplished great things or Ilikepurple Nov 11 #31
Lawrence's show is excellent. He said the same thing I said, that a few Democrats doesn't mean the whole party. betsuni Nov 11 #37
I think his show is decent, but I'm not sure what position they abandoned? Ilikepurple Nov 11 #42
The one thing they wanted the most, they caved and let go. lees1975 Nov 11 #30
It feels like an outright gaslighting campaign fujiyamasan Nov 11 #47
I'm with Lawrence on this one padah513 Nov 11 #33
I agree--and I'm still apoplectic about ACA subsidies not being extended crimycarny Nov 11 #58
I watched it lapfog_1 Nov 11 #34
He Mentioned Guarantees by the Republicans 2na fisherman Nov 11 #36
This is exactly BeerBarrelPolka Nov 11 #44
Therecare no guarantees. Demsrule86 Nov 11 #52
Here is Lawrence's explanation LetMyPeopleVote Nov 11 #46
Honestly, if there's some massive, hidden strategy in all of this hamsterjill Nov 11 #49
We have seen tepid, semi-apologies and justifications mr715 Nov 11 #56
Dems made it hurt less, uponit7771 Nov 12 #59
Lawrence was great last night also LetMyPeopleVote Nov 13 #60
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