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AZJonnie

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31. Yes, but the subject is this particular email and who (Victim) is in that context

Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:08 PM

Nov 13

(Victim) being Virginia Guiffre in this context is the best possible 'answer' for Trump, because, under oath in 2015, she says she never saw Trump do anything wrong. She is like the ONE PERSON who has basically exonerated him from doing anything wrong (in relation to herself).

However, as I said in the OP, in that SAME testimony, she explicitly said she never saw Trump at an Epstein property. Whereas if she is (Victim), then Epstein's email is clearly saying Virginia was, in fact, with Trump for hours at his house. They can't both be true. That is the one and only point to what I'm saying, nothing to do with any 'blanket exoneration' for Trump. Of course she's only 1 person out of innumerable possible others

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I'm not sure who (Victim) in the email was, but I think the GQP's claim it was Virginia Guiffre is BS! [View all] AZJonnie Nov 13 OP

Let me see if I understand this BeerBarrelPolka Nov 13 #1

Fair question! Here's the magical answering machine to the rescue AZJonnie Nov 13 #2

Well BeerBarrelPolka Nov 13 #3

Anybody but Virginia Guiffre, I would agree AZJonnie Nov 13 #4

We will never know definitively BeerBarrelPolka Nov 13 #8

For some names, the co-author has knowledge TommyT139 Nov 13 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Volaris Nov 13 #29

Did Trump pay her off? mgardener Nov 13 #13

Because of the so-called sweetheart deal cobbled together for Epstein... Hugin Nov 13 #5

Honestly BeerBarrelPolka Nov 13 #6

Sadly, I tend to agree... Hugin Nov 13 #9

That's true BeerBarrelPolka Nov 13 #10

At least in today's news TommyT139 Nov 13 #7

Could have been Katie Johnson jmbar2 Nov 13 #12

It would really be nice if she were to come out again Callie1979 Nov 13 #15

If she's still living BeerBarrelPolka Nov 13 #16

If not it would seem we'd hear about it. She must've had family. Callie1979 Nov 13 #21

Good points BeerBarrelPolka Nov 13 #22

That case turned out to be extremely sketchy AZJonnie Nov 13 #26

Its my understanding that the redaction was done by the Democrats to shield victims. Callie1979 Nov 13 #14

There Were Innumerable Other Minors. Virginia Was The Known.... ColoringFool Nov 13 #17

Yes, but the subject is this particular email and who (Victim) is in that context AZJonnie Nov 13 #31

I'm Saying That Trump Defenders---Not You---Will Try To Use This..... ColoringFool Nov 14 #36

Sounds serious Torchlight Nov 14 #37

Wasn't Giuffre stationed at Trump's property until Epstein "stole" her? live love laugh Nov 13 #18

That's my recollection. Something about her dad working at MALago in allegorical oracle Nov 13 #20

Trumps full of it, of course, he didn't care about a towel girl going to work for Epstein AZJonnie Nov 13 #30

The GOP released the unredacted document with Giuffre's name Prairie Gates Nov 13 #19

Indeed - as the BBC said: muriel_volestrangler Nov 13 #23

Hmmmm ... okay thanks for the update. I didn't know if the Democrats knew the name before redaction AZJonnie Nov 13 #24

Yes, that's the question others are asking as well Prairie Gates Nov 13 #25

Or she didn't testify about her interaction with trump Lifeafter70 Nov 13 #27

I addressed that question upthread as it was the first question asked of my OP by BeerBarrelPolka AZJonnie Nov 13 #28

I don't think it was about money Lifeafter70 Nov 13 #33

I have an idea ... what if it was ALL the money from that suit, that Maxwell settled before actual court? AZJonnie Nov 13 #34

I was referring to Virgina Giuffre Lifeafter70 Nov 13 #35

Because apparently choie Nov 13 #32