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crimycarny

(1,971 posts)
19. I was apoplectic when the Democratics caved
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:48 PM
Thursday

But I also acknowledged (to myself) that I don't know the insider's scope as to what the GOP was prepared to do. They are not normal; it's a whole different game than we've ever seen in American politics. I've never seen a party do so much damage to the entire country and give zero f*cks. I honestly think the GOP was prepared to let the entire country go down in flames.

So maybe the Democrats realized they weren't going to win this, not this round. I'm not making excuses and I'm not "cheerleading", but I'm also not personally worried about putting food on the table, so I can't speak for whether or not someone else who is could have lasted much longer.

Since that horse has left the barn, what to do now? One thing is to get the old guard Dems who aren't willing to fight out of office and put in some Dems who will fight.

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I'm with you. There's no need to smear fellow Democrats. Walleye Thursday #1
My thought is that dissing Demos just might not be Demos but masquerading as such Stargazer99 Thursday #4
Whether masquerading or not, such argumentation is, imo B.See Thursday #48
A few weeks ago I started following online discussion groups where federal employees gather... OneGrassRoot Thursday #2
I agree. I know three people affected. hamsterjill Thursday #7
Ok we bitched a lot snowybirdie Thursday #3
Getting the ACA tax credit extended is critical. CentralMass Thursday #27
And how the fuck do we do that now? The eight and Schumer are completely Demsrule86 Monday #62
I'm with you, gab13by13 Thursday #5
DURec leftstreet Thursday #6
I don't think anyone on the left wanted anyone SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #8
But they will still suffer consequences. Demsrule86 Thursday #30
Affluent white people never suffer SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #34
It will not be fine. And the recipients are not Demsrule86 Thursday #46
The people I'm talking about are Green voters SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #47
This is the issue. Those on the far left care as Demsrule86 Thursday #35
They need to stop insulting us SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #37
I don't know whether or not it was best to continue the shutdown ... Intractable Thursday #9
I agree wholeheartedly luv2fly Thursday #10
Did you give the same admonishment in reverse? EdmondDantes_ Thursday #11
If *I* did that, hamsterjill Thursday #12
The eight, including Schumer, also cared that people not suffer hunger, and so they made the 271 ancianita Thursday #15
Trump has reneged on most of that. No doubt Demsrule86 Thursday #33
I never said any Democrat was okay with people going hungry EdmondDantes_ Thursday #22
No I understand being conflicted but what was Demsrule86 Thursday #32
Your post 38 proves my point EdmondDantes_ Thursday #43
Yes and no...now that it is clear that the compromise was a dismal failure...there Demsrule86 Monday #61
All I will say is this... S/V Loner Thursday #13
So that is more important than the ACA. Demsrule86 Thursday #38
Of course the ACA is important but... S/V Loner Thursday #40
The Dems were on track: short-term pain for long-term gain. cer7711 Thursday #14
Nope. The on-track Dems made the 271 blink. They knew that it would ease hunger & suffering, but ancianita Thursday #16
May I be very frank with you? hamsterjill Thursday #25
It's called General Discussion. Long winded? Or short attention span? I take Dems seriously. ancianita Thursday #28
It won't ease suffering. Trump is a liar. Demsrule86 Thursday #39
Of course Trump is a liar. But congress people see all the polls and attitudes are shifting ancianita Thursday #44
I don't think anyone wanted those things to happen. But we can't pretend it wasn't a consequence of a continued shutdown tritsofme Thursday #17
Exactly angrychair Thursday #18
I was apoplectic when the Democratics caved crimycarny Thursday #19
The "all is well despite the way it looks!" cheerleading and long screeds are increasingly ludicrous. Scrivener7 Thursday #20
Scrivener, are you sure we aren't related? hamsterjill Thursday #23
We are! Scrivener7 Thursday #24
And yes, yes, yes!!!! As to the long screeds. hamsterjill Thursday #26
the pro cave-in scolding/gaslighting is the new pro Garland scolding/gaslighting Celerity Thursday #45
I bowed out of those discussions after a few days Torchlight Thursday #21
I need SNAP and still have no benefits as of now, but.. mvd Thursday #29
Thank you for your insight. hamsterjill Thursday #31
This message was self-deleted by its author mvd Friday #56
It's really just the reverse of people falsely claiming "Democrats voted to take away healthcare". QueerDuck Thursday #36
But you see 8 democrats plus Schumer did Demsrule86 Thursday #42
... or something. 🤣😂 QueerDuck Thursday #49
Love your name...rec'd you and the post too! Demsrule86 Monday #58
Honestly, I've not seen any posts saying that Democrats voted to take away healthcare. hamsterjill Thursday #50
And none of us wants anyone to go without health insurance, or have their premiums skyrocket, or go without insurance. Sogo Thursday #41
No, we don't have to not lose faith. hamsterjill Thursday #51
The Democrats did achieve some concessions LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #52
Rah rah. Scrivener7 Thursday #53
The next shutdown is coming LetMyPeopleVote Friday #57
There is no current funding...everyone millions and millions of snap users must reapply. Demsrule86 Monday #60
If someone's post is that offensive to you. MorbidButterflyTat Friday #54
I'm flattered. hamsterjill Friday #55
The only way it would have worked was to nail the GOP and make impossible for them Demsrule86 Monday #59
With regard to the OP, my initial response B.See Monday #63
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