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In reply to the discussion: None of us wanted people to go hungry or without pay. [View all]ancianita
(42,626 posts)you and others here persist in presenting yourselves as more moral.
The only explanation is a misguided sense of consistency in unity, attached to another misguided view that the perfect be the enemy of the good.
To persist in the idea that unity alone would have solved the hunger & suffering of 42 million is proof that the claimers wanted Dems to hold out longer on the original bill that would have completely denied 42 million their SNAP food money. And let Americans continue to suffer.
No minority party ever got what it wanted in a shutdown. So for all the critical lip service they still get here, here are both the moral and smart things the five DID to end suffering and hunger:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20797051
Dems can't have it both ways.
They can either be more morally clear and agree with the five to get food to the suffering, or they can be less morally clear for the sake of party unity (as if unity is some higher moral level) and criticize the five for actually legislating increased SNAP food help.
You're either for how Dems ended the shutdown -- getting 271 repubs to cave -- or you're not.
But no one here can do both.
Five Democrats changed their position. They insisted on changes they would vote for.
271 Republicans changed their position to arrive at a compromised position WITH THE DEMS.
And it's reported by corporate media as "just the Democrats caving." Which you know better than to continue to believe.
Now, if we want to use the word cave in place of the word compromise,
271 Republicans, including Donald Trump, caved to just five Democrats, not eight, just five -- why? because three Democrats were already voting with the Republicans.
Again. The on-track Dems made the 271 blink. And how they got there was by forcing an imperfect bipartisan unity.
Don't argue with them. You weren't them. Support Democrats without insisting you know the moral high ground better. We're getting national credit for this and republicans are not, so take it with some grace.