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67. Great case made in "MAGA Dies With Trump: The One Thing Pundits Refuse to Admit"

Tue Sep 2, 2025, 12:12 AM

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JACK HOPKINS NOW
MAGA Dies With Trump: The One Thing Pundits Refuse to Admit
https://substack.com/home/post/p-172414848

JACK HOPKINS NOW
MAGA Dies With Trump: The One Thing Pundits Refuse to Admit
The “figurehead theory” is fantasy. MAGA isn’t transferable...it dies with the man.
JACK HOPKINS
AUG 31, 2025

MAGA Dies With Trump: The One Thing Pundits Refuse to Admit

The “figurehead theory” is fantasy. MAGA isn’t transferable…it dies with the man.

The Jack Hopkins Now Newsletter #515: Sunday, August 31st, 2025.

The Linchpin

Here’s the brutal truth: MAGA isn’t bigger than Trump. MAGA is Trump.

He’s the spark plug…the circus master…the one man who turned grievance into a political religion. Remove him…and you don’t get a smooth handoff. You get chaos… fragmentation…and erosion.

Yes…the anger will remain. Yes…the authoritarian current in America will keep flowing. But the singular juggernaut we call MAGA? That dissolves the moment he’s gone.

Because when the linchpin is removed…the whole machine comes apart.

He makes a strong case and I suspect it could play out sort of like he predicts.

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Vance taking over really means [View all] edhopper Sep 1 OP

Vance doesn't have the cult like following that Trump has. Arkansas Granny Sep 1 #1

That's my one hope... He comes across to much of MAGA as slimey and self-serving as he does to us... hlthe2b Sep 1 #17

Yes, he will not have the support of the orange revelers. He doesn't have support of Bev54 Sep 1 #28

The key is whether Trump's brownshirts MadameButterfly Sep 2 #77

Exactly. He wouldn't get away with much of trump's crud. That's not to say Vance would be a good Prez. Silent Type Sep 1 #37

I don't think Vance would be able to get away with as much as Trump Ohioboy Sep 1 #38

The most important point - Vance can't keep them in his spell. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #56

Civil War Nasruddin Sep 2 #68

Vance will be more focused and bring in markodochartaigh Sep 1 #2

Never Trumpers will NOT support Vance. Wiz Imp Sep 1 #12

Agreed! Bev54 Sep 1 #29

1) the who? quakerboy Sep 1 #42

I think that the markodochartaigh Sep 1 #45

id trade 5% getting back in quakerboy Sep 1 #50

I think Maga will (largely) NOT gravitate to Vance.. They are mostly Ars Longa Sep 1 #57

And it will be done quietly & in secret. The drama will be gone. CrispyQ Sep 1 #3

! jfz9580m Sep 1 #55

He already is. The orange thing is not the one running things, he is merely niyad Sep 1 #4

FIFY jayschool2013 Sep 1 #15

Peter Thiel Mz Pip Sep 1 #5

Right TheFarseer Sep 1 #6

Vance's ties to the Christofascists is pretty scary... Wounded Bear Sep 1 #7

Don't care, looking forward to his ouster for reasons as well? Brainfodder Sep 1 #8

Whatever. If Vance becomes president johnnyfins Sep 1 #9

The last only way Vance is Prezeldent is if there are no 2028 elections JanMichael Sep 1 #10

I think people are talking about a change happening BEFORE 28 stopdiggin Sep 1 #30

He's already debilitated. mountain grammy Sep 1 #46

If he dies this week, then next week Seinan Sensei Sep 1 #59

don't quite understand why that would be important at that point stopdiggin Sep 2 #65

"becomes" ??? LOL Jack Valentino Sep 1 #60

point! (but you know what I meant ..) -(nt)- stopdiggin Sep 2 #66

Election, resignation, death, or incapacity. Iggo Sep 1 #43

Yes, we're going to face the rise of the Tech Bros in government peggysue2 Sep 1 #11

Yup. They all think they want Lords and serfs again because they all think they will be the travelingthrulife Sep 2 #76

Yes! peggysue2 Sep 2 #82

He will be removed quickly. No one likes him including republicans. Blue Full Moon Sep 1 #13

+1 Kaleva Sep 1 #21

by what mechanism? next election is over 3 years off ... stopdiggin Sep 1 #31

Without a doubt dlk Sep 1 #14

What makes you think Vance will get much more done? Kaleva Sep 1 #20

Good Question ProfessorGAC Sep 1 #32

He's not as easily distracted as Trump dlk Sep 1 #48

That could be said of Pence too. Kaleva Sep 1 #49

Correct Cosmocat Sep 2 #73

When Trump goes, everyone on the right will go for a power grab. Gore1FL Sep 1 #16

I agree Kaleva Sep 1 #19

Vance doesn't have the hold over MAGA that Trump has Kaleva Sep 1 #18

This. He won't be able to keep up his attempt at being "Everyman" Iris Sep 1 #22

But, the "base" will not accept and cheer everything coming from the administration. We will finally see cracks question everything Sep 1 #23

the first mention of Congress in the thread ... Thanks! stopdiggin Sep 1 #34

Trump is like the head vampire though. EllieBC Sep 1 #24

Pretty good analogy. That's the thing about cults of personality... paleotn Sep 1 #36

How to go from living enigmania Sep 1 #25

When Trump kicks it, the Crypto Bro Troika will control currency, and hence Wall Street and the world. usonian Sep 1 #26

The crypto bros lose all their supposed "power" when Trump disintegrates. paleotn Sep 1 #39

Why would the DOJ magically be "reconstituted"? misanthrope Sep 1 #53

I seriously doubt MLWR Sep 1 #27

No, he won't. But easier to defeat in 2028. paleotn Sep 1 #33

Can MAGA Re-Cult to Just Dance Vance the Couchhumper? Kid Berwyn Sep 1 #35

He won't get the maga people. Katcat Sep 1 #40

No, but I think it will break the Trump Fever Dream Joinfortmill Sep 1 #41

LOL, Vance is Mini-Drax usonian Sep 1 #44

I think Vance and Theil may be slipping a little something mercuryblues Sep 1 #47

I don't think republicans will stand up for him as they have with the turd. liberal N proud Sep 1 #51

I dont peg him as an actual dictator who is a complete sociopath SSJVegeta Sep 1 #52

Don't forget that Vance blurbed Unhumans -- the far, far, far, far right dystopian fantasy of fascism saving the world. pat_k Sep 1 #54

"Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for years." OldBaldy1701E Sep 2 #75

It reminds me of those dark questions jfz9580m Sep 1 #58

Plain and simple angrychair Sep 1 #61

How do Peter Thiel & Stephen Miller get along? Will Stephen retreat back to his crypt, or will he try to stay powerful? NBachers Sep 1 #62

One asshole at a time please. 58Sunliner Sep 1 #63

What I'm afraid of Diraven Sep 1 #64

Great case made in "MAGA Dies With Trump: The One Thing Pundits Refuse to Admit" summer_in_TX Sep 2 #67

Yes, MAGA is a cult of personality Farmer-Rick Sep 2 #74

There's something y'all are forgetting. Morbius Sep 2 #69

So if Vance is President mikenash54 Sep 2 #70

He picks whoever he wants, edhopper Sep 2 #80

Better than nothing🤷 ihavenoidea Sep 2 #71

listen to russia's Snoopy 7 Sep 2 #72

My sister also said she thinks Vance will BlueKota Sep 2 #78

Exactly! Exchange the Orange sock puppet for the couch molester... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2 #79

One problem at a time. JohnnyRingo Sep 2 #81