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Wiz Imp

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45. Notably absent from the list of those accused by victims? Donald Trump.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 03:15 PM
Jul 25

In fact several victims explicitly stated they witnessed no wrongdoing by Trump. In particular, Virginia Giuffre:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/09/epstein-mar-a-lago-trump-1456221

The unsealed files don’t appear to include any allegation that Trump had sex with Giuffre or other women working for Epstein.

Giuffre also denied aspects of a reporter’s claim that she said: “Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey’s. He didn’t partake in any sex with any of us but he flirted with me. He’d laugh and tell Jeffrey, ‘you’ve got the life.’”

“’Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey’s.’ That part is true. ‘He didn’t partake in any’ of — any sex with any of us but he flirted with me.’ It’s true that he didn’t partake in any sex with us, but it’s not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me,” Giuffre clarified later.


Note, however that Giuffre effectively said that Trump had to know what Epstein was doing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/17/trump-epstein-relationship-records/
She said that anyone who visited Epstein’s house would have seen his many nude photos of women displayed on the walls. “These are salacious acts of girls, young girls doing things to each other that would be considered child pornography,” Giuffre testified. “If you walked foot into Jeffrey Epstein’s house and you went in there and you continued to be an acquaintance of his then you would have to know what was going on there.”


There have been only 2 accusations of wrongdoing by Trump connected to Epstein that I can find.
The documents also included emails from an accuser who made allegations against Trump but then withdrew them. (Separately, a woman with the pseudonyms Katie Johnson and Jane Doe accused Trump of raping her in Epstein’s home when she was 13; those filings were dismissed or withdrawn years ago.)


The Katie Johnson accusations have remained anonymous unlike the accusations against the other people who have been accused of wrongdoing (most of whom were specifically named by Virginia Giuffre).

The other accusation came from Sarah Ransome who has been discredited.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/new-round-jeffrey-epstein-court-documents-unsealed/story?id=106174129
Also included in Monday's document unsealing is an exhibit that contains emails sent by Ransome to a New York Post reporter in the fall of 2016.In those messages, Ransome made allegations that implicated former Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, Prince Andrew and Richard Branson. She also described alleged videotape evidence she claimed to possess that would back up her allegations but said she could not provide it, according to the messages.

Ransome subsequently told the New York Post reporter, who did not publish any story related to the allegations, that she wanted to "retract everything I have said to you and walk away from this," according to an unsealed message from October 2016.

In 2019, The New Yorker reported that Ransome told the magazine she had invented the claims of videotapes to draw attention to Epstein's behavior and to make him believe she had "evidence that would come out" if Epstein harmed her, according to the magazine.

Neither Clinton, nor Trump, nor Branson was accused by Giuffre, or anyone else besides Ransome, of any wrongdoing in the course of Giuffre's defamation lawsuit against Maxwell.



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Does Bill Clinton count? NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 25 #1
The Clinton connection existed but harmlessly and has been debunked, no, it does not count Bernardo de La Paz Jul 25 #2
You say that as if Trump didn't harp on the birther nonsense after it was debunked EdmondDantes_ Jul 25 #3
Point is, WE don't have to harp on it. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 25 #11
Clinton was not Epsteins best friend and pedo-fuck buddy for 15 years. brush Jul 25 #31
I couldn't fault him with the job he did for our country. pazzyanne Jul 25 #18
Faulting Clinton notKeith Jul 25 #25
what is neopliberalizem. please show linkls . books etrc . thank yo otherwise there aint no such thing. AllaN01Bear Jul 25 #28
From discussions with H2O Man Jul 25 #39
I met him when he was running for office. Had seen him on TV -- and I'm not one to allegorical oracle Jul 25 #46
Former Gov Bill Richardson too, right? I mean, that's not a secret. That's been out there for years. Mike 03 Jul 25 #30
Yes. H2O Man Jul 25 #42
Separating the significant from the insignificant is undemocratic bucolic_frolic Jul 25 #4
Being the vindictive narcissist that he is, Trump would have only kept it under wraps if his name were all over it. W_HAMILTON Jul 25 #5
There is no doubt Aviation Pro Jul 25 #6
Debunked years ago. FalloutShelter Jul 25 #10
Did you forget the two that were linked to him while Epstein was in jail? Polybius Jul 25 #36
If he could release only that portion, he would. Martin Eden Jul 25 #7
I worry that he's trying to do just that MadameButterfly Jul 25 #24
I have the same worry, however... Martin Eden Jul 25 #40
Yeah, it does seem like SOMEone is going to object MadameButterfly Jul 25 #50
Expose them all jonstl08 Jul 25 #8
This! NewHendoLib Jul 25 #9
Besides the Beauty Pageants, Trump had a modeling agency too. emulatorloo Jul 25 #38
THANK YOU Skittles Jul 25 #47
I think Trump IS the list and Epstein was one of Trump's clients, not the other way around. n/t iscooterliberally Jul 25 #12
Trump had a 'modeling agency'. Wasn't it for very young 'models'? Attilatheblond Jul 25 #15
I'm thinking partners. rubbersole Jul 25 #16
Pedophiles and rapists come in all persuasions, so am sure there are folks in the files of all political types. iluvtennis Jul 25 #13
Agree w last sentence. And I'm no expert but I think it's fair to think that there are more wiggs Jul 25 #22
Ah...and this DU post reinforces the above. See link inside wiggs Jul 25 #43
At least one of Epstein's victims accused former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson of raping her. Wiz Imp Jul 25 #14
Stephen Hawking??? The Madcap Jul 25 #19
Yep. Though it's probably the shakiest of the accusations Wiz Imp Jul 25 #26
LOL. Maybe it occurred in one of the Quantum multiverse worlds. lostincalifornia Jul 25 #27
Pritzker? Deep State Witch Jul 25 #29
He's a cousin Wiz Imp Jul 25 #32
Ah, Okay Deep State Witch Jul 25 #33
George Mitchell too Polybius Jul 25 #37
Yes. He was named by Virginia Giuffre as well. Wiz Imp Jul 25 #44
Notably absent from the list of those accused by victims? Donald Trump. Wiz Imp Jul 25 #45
The difference is... ECL213 Jul 25 #17
First of all, Pres. Bill Clinton is no pedophile, despite his other faults FakeNoose Jul 25 #20
Their stupidity anded short-sightedness is incredible. They exploited this for a short-term gain in votes at the Martin68 Jul 25 #21
Do they really think that's going to scare us into line? Warpy Jul 25 #23
Fine: EXPOSE THEM ALL! Chasstev365 Jul 25 #34
Yes, I doubt it, as long as his name is on it Polybius Jul 25 #35
Let the chips fall where they may. republianmushroom Jul 25 #41
George Soros' nephew Peter Soros is listed on Epstein's contact list that has been released... AntiFascist Jul 25 #48
He cares about himself more than anyone Renew Deal Jul 25 #49
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