No need to bring it up.

Or any of his other lies.

That said to be clear based on what Bill Clinton released, he did nothing wrong just some flights to Africa for Clinton Foundation business

trump's name is all over those files, audios, videos and testimony by teenage victims. If they had anything like that on Bill Clinton it would've been blasted long ago, 24/7, like what happened to Prince Andrew.

BUT even then I prefaced my statements with, "If I had daughters, I wouldn't let them be within 3 country of him."

Well, I can fault him. His penchant for neoliberalism (privatization, reduction of federal spending on social programs, etc.) was basically Republican Lite, and we continue to pay the price for this ideology. Not to mention that in '94 the Republicans took control of both the House and Senate for the first time in 40 years.
OTOH, he appears not to have been as close to Epstein as Mango Mussolini was.

some kids I know, who are in their 30s and 40s, it is a word coined by republicans to replace "neoconservative" and attempt to discredit some Democrats.

be anybody's "groupie" -- but in person he definitely exuded a charm. He sandwiched my hand between his two (soft) hands and stared into my eyes like I was the only person in the room. Could see how he could be a successful womanizer.

I hope this won't surprise anybody here and doubt it will. I know there are likely to be Dems in the file, since Epstein was friends with so many of them. Nevertheless I want the files released. I'm betting on there being more GOP who are of present concern to us because they are in power now--therefore, relevant. I will accept what the files show. We all know there's risk to us in releasing the files, but we are betting on the fact there will be more damage to this current administration than to us.

Thank you for this.

Former president Clinton had known Epstein, but that was limited to foundation work. No issues there. Richardson is potentially a different case, but he will not be of any significance in the current national discussion. But the felon sure will continue to be!

Equality after all because we're all in this together.

Democrats and Republicans are both classless parties, just in very different ways.

There may be some donors, but that’s the extent of Democrats in the files.

And in spite of his past peccadillos, Clinton’s tastes didn’t run to raping 12-year-olds.

I read that when Clinton was in the presence of Epstein, he had a secret service detail with him.
That ended the salacious speculation.

It was all over DU.

My biggest question regarding the Epstein files is whether this administration could get away with that kind of selective release; or destruction of incriminating files; or falsifying evidence to implicate his political enemies.

If he could, I believe he would.

Which suggests to me he can't get away with doing that. Agents and prosecutors on that case know better, and might come forward. Firing them may not have been the smartest move.

That's why the Epstein Recess of the House. To give them more time. Plus a thousand FBI agents flagging mentions of Trump. Do you trust this information in the hands of Trump? I don't.

I hope you are right and he can't. But not every shenanigans but crooked people gets caught.

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Can Trumpco trust a thousand FBI agents to go along with the falsification?

Will lie detector tests keep them in check?

I say expose them all regardless of who they are. Public has a right to know if they are supporting a pedophile,

It is true Trump and the GOP would have released the list if it was only democrats on it but the evidence shows he was part of it. Ever wonder why he bought teenage beauty pageants. Could be recruiting for the Island???

EXPOSE THEM ALL, ALONG WITH EVERYONE WHO HAS COVERED FOR THEM

Yeah, 'talent' supplier.

Over 4,000 wire transfers worth over a billion dollars between these two perverts. This tip of the iceberg is covering up a dump. tsf has outlived his usefulness to the oligarchs and Murdoch who made him the face of their fascist world view.

If the Democrats in the files are significant or not, don't know. But in my opinion charges need to be brought against all of alleged pedophiles and rapists .

pedophiles and rapists who have a background of patriarchy, autocratic households, power seeking, spouse abuse, bro-y asshole culture, entitlement, etc. Willing to be corrected...but given the notoriety and number of goprs and religious leaders who have run into abuse issues the starting assumption shouldn't be that things are equal in this aspect.

I believe he is the only Democratic politician accused of wrongdoing connected to Epstein that is publicly known. From Wikipedia:

Ok. Now I have officially heard it all.

How close of a relation to the current governor of Illinois is he?

Thanks!

For some reason, his name didn't come up when I searched this morning.

In fact several victims explicitly stated they witnessed no wrongdoing by Trump. In particular, Virginia Giuffre:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/09/epstein-mar-a-lago-trump-1456221

I don’t care who is in them. Rapeublicans or Democrats. Lock them all up. I like Bill Clinton, but if he fucked a kid FUCK HIM! I wouldn’t protect any of them.

MAGAts, though, will gloss over any of Donnie Dipshit’s transgressions, no matter what proof is placed in front of them. Fuck them all.

Secondly, he has already answered the question of his occasional plane rides on Epstein's airplane. Bill (and occasionally Hillary) were guests on Epstein's plane when they were attending fundraiser events in other parts of the world. When Epstein offered Bill a "lift" because he was going to the same area, Bill graciously accepted the offer. The secret service agents were present at all times, and nothing untoward happened on those plane rides.

Thirdly if something skeevy did happen on Epstein's plane, we would have seen it in newspaper headlines all across the country. Or more likely, Bill would have joined the long list of Epstein's blackmail victims ... but I think he's too smart to let that happen. This was long after Monica Lewinsky, don't forget.

expense of keeping the issue alive to haunt them once they got into office. But the Teflon Tangerine has wriggled out of worse scenarios. The difference here is that he had already primed his core supporters to believe this is a Democratic cover up, and they don't want to let those damn libs get away with it!!

We already know about Bill Clinton, he was outed over a decade ago.

There are a few I'd be very disappointed about but I won't be surprised, rich and powerful men seem to feel enetitled to the bodies of girls who still keep their Barbie dolls looking sharp. Epstein just provided domestic instead of foreign sex tours. This is the world girls and women live in, guys, so it's time to rip the lid off and expose what is squirming inside, trying to hide from itself as much as it is from everyone else.

I really don't care if they are Democrats, Republicans, or the powerful: They are sick fucks who need to be held accountable. I wonder how many of them had daughters the same age?

I taught high-school for 35 years and never once did I consider having an inappropriate relationship with a student.
I saw them for who they were: children.

Many sexual perversions I do not understand, but its not my place to judge. However, anything with a minor is never acceptable under any circumstances. End of story.

Even if it included another President (ahem) and 20 other prominent Democrats were on the list, he would not release it as long as his name was also on it.

with a hand-drawn box around his contact info. I don't know if that matters so much to Democrats, but Epstein victim Maria Farmer pointed out in a recent interview that many Republicans are involved. She also pointed out that Trump was a Democrat at the time that she reported her meeting with Epstein where Trump was present to the FBI, so her report couldn't have been politically motivated against Republicans.

But I have no issue exposing any that are true and truly connected to illegal activity.