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In reply to the discussion: There has never been a plausible case of Israeli genocide. [View all]lapucelle
(20,386 posts)50. BBC posted the clip on twitter shortly after the program aired, and it's still available on their website.
Here's an embedded clip straight from the BBC.
Former head of ICJ explains ruling on genocide case against Israel brought by S Africa
Joan Donoghue, who has just retired as president of the International Court of Justice (ICJ), spoke to BBC Hardtalks Stephen Sackur about the case brought by South Africa to the ICJ over alleged violations of the Genocide Convention by Israel.
Ms Donoghue explained that the court decided the Palestinians had a plausible right to be protected from genocide and that South Africa had the right to present that claim in the court.
She said that, contrary to some reporting, the court did not make a ruling on whether the claim of genocide was plausible, but it did emphasise in its order that there was a risk of irreparable harm to the Palestinian right to be protected from genocide.
26 April 2024
Joan Donoghue, who has just retired as president of the International Court of Justice (ICJ), spoke to BBC Hardtalks Stephen Sackur about the case brought by South Africa to the ICJ over alleged violations of the Genocide Convention by Israel.
Ms Donoghue explained that the court decided the Palestinians had a plausible right to be protected from genocide and that South Africa had the right to present that claim in the court.
She said that, contrary to some reporting, the court did not make a ruling on whether the claim of genocide was plausible, but it did emphasise in its order that there was a risk of irreparable harm to the Palestinian right to be protected from genocide.
26 April 2024
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-68906919
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What's really interesting is that both Ireland and Amnesty International want the legal definition of genocide to be changed (relaxed) so that the war against Hamas (or, indeed, any war) will fit the new definition.
Ireland will intervene in South Africa's genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice in The Hague in an effort to broaden the definition of genocide.
Ireland's Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Affairs Minister Micheal Martin said he had secured the cabinet's approval to intervene in the case against Israel, and said that the intervention would be filed later this month.
In a press release, Ireland's Department of Foreign Affairs said that "By legally intervening in South Africa's case, Ireland will be asking the ICJ to broaden its interpretation of what constitutes the commission of genocide."
Ireland's Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Affairs Minister Micheal Martin said he had secured the cabinet's approval to intervene in the case against Israel, and said that the intervention would be filed later this month.
In a press release, Ireland's Department of Foreign Affairs said that "By legally intervening in South Africa's case, Ireland will be asking the ICJ to broaden its interpretation of what constitutes the commission of genocide."
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-12-11/ty-article/ireland-to-intervene-in-south-africas-genocide-case-against-israel-at-world-court/00000193-b6d1-dd53-a3f3-f7fb1d410000
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UKFLI Charitable Trust? Wow, YouTube is pushing the propaganda at you.
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 22
#29
Here is the YT video for your first link. UKFLI is a front for apartheid, occupation, war crimes, and ethnic cleansing.
Celerity
Wednesday
#48
BBC posted the clip on twitter shortly after the program aired, and it's still available on their website.
lapucelle
Wednesday
#50
The ICJ is only one of many legitimate authorities on the subject of genocide. I have seen a number of very plausible
Martin68
Jul 21
#3
I'm pressed for time and you could certainly google the topic yourself, but I'll provide a few reliable links
Martin68
Jul 22
#23
You clearly do not understand the meaning of the word "authority," but this is the answer I expected. Very
Martin68
Wednesday
#53
The issue is what consititutes genocide, which is a legal question, as it is a war crime.
SunSeeker
Wednesday
#56
No, genocide as a concept is not only a legal question. You have chosen to limit your consideration of the term to
Martin68
Thursday
#58
Legal definitions control this issue. Making definitions up renders words meaningless.
SunSeeker
Thursday
#59
You're referring back to a decision a year and a half ago, which of course ignores everything
highplainsdem
Jul 21
#6
There is no legal definition of ethnic cleansing. It is not recognized as an international crime. The only difference
Martin68
Wednesday
#55
Weird take that you find arguing over the deaths of a lot of people hilarious
EdmondDantes_
Jul 22
#34
Netanyahu was elected by the people of Israel to, among other things, run the military. While individual Israelis are
Martin68
Jul 22
#25
I'm old enough to remember some being chided for using "Palestine" in lieu of "Hamas".
OilemFirchen
Jul 22
#31
All the Palestinian corpses are just collateral damage and unfortunate mistakes of a "Just War".
Ping Tung
Jul 22
#28