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OilemFirchen

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30. This is pure comedy gold.

Tue Jul 22, 2025, 02:51 PM

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From your link:

In January, the ICJ delivered an interim judgement - and one key paragraph from the ruling drew the most attention: “In the Court’s view, the facts and circumstances... are sufficient to conclude that at least some of the rights claimed by South Africa and for which it is seeking protection are plausible.”

This was interpreted by many, including some legal commentators, to mean that the court had concluded that the claim that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza was “plausible”.

This interpretation spread quickly, appearing in UN press releases, statements from campaign groups and many media outlets, including the BBC.

In April, however, Joan Donoghue, the president of the ICJ at the time of that ruling, said in a BBC interview that this was not what the court had ruled.

The ellipsis in the first paragraph obfuscates that the ICJ concluded that the Palestinians had a plausible right to be protected from genocide and that South Africa had the right to present that claim in the court. That some unnamed others, including unnamed "legal commentators" declared otherwise is not exactly newsworthy, nor useful. That the "interpretation spread quickly, appearing in UN press releases, statements from campaign groups and many media outlets, including the BBC" is likewise irrelevant, predictable and equally useless. In fact, all of those statements directly contradict the plain language from Joan Donoghue in the fourth paragraph, and is the thrust of this OP.

Your assertion that 'In 2024 they called the genocide claims "plausible"' is a howler and your link includes the massive punchline.

Then "In 2025, it’s what’s called a slam dunk. The planned death camps should be a clue." Hilarious!

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There has never been a plausible case of Israeli genocide. [View all] OilemFirchen Monday OP

The Order was made by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in January 2024, sheshe2 Monday #1

As I said, I've been staying away from the subject. OilemFirchen Monday #8

I do understand your staying away from the subject, I do. sheshe2 Yesterday #12

UKFLI Charitable Trust? Wow, YouTube is pushing the propaganda at you. muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #29

Here is the YT video for your first link. UKFLI is a front for apartheid, occupation, war crimes, and ethnic cleansing. Celerity 16 hrs ago #48

BBC posted the clip on twitter shortly after the program aired, and it's still available on their website. lapucelle 11 hrs ago #50

That seems like a bit of a technical cop out EdmondDantes_ Monday #2

From "Never Again" to writerJT Monday #4

This message was self-deleted by its author iemanja Yesterday #15

The ICJ is only one of many legitimate authorities on the subject of genocide. I have seen a number of very plausible Martin68 Monday #3

Please link to them all so I can read those as well. sheshe2 Monday #5

Try google, it worked for me krawhitham Monday #10

I'm pressed for time and you could certainly google the topic yourself, but I'll provide a few reliable links Martin68 Yesterday #23

None of those are authorities, let alone legal authorities like the ICJ. SunSeeker 17 hrs ago #46

You clearly do not understand the meaning of the word "authority," but this is the answer I expected. Very Martin68 9 hrs ago #53

You're referring back to a decision a year and a half ago, which of course ignores everything highplainsdem Monday #6

This Johnny2X2X Monday #7

Ethnic cleansing is not the same as genocide. SunSeeker 17 hrs ago #47

Do tell. OilemFirchen Monday #9

In 2024 they called the genocide claims "plausible" iemanja Yesterday #14

This is pure comedy gold. OilemFirchen Yesterday #30

Weird take that you find arguing over the deaths of a lot of people hilarious EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #34

And there it is. OilemFirchen Yesterday #39

So no you can't explain what's funny about this EdmondDantes_ 10 hrs ago #52

That you consider any of this comedy iemanja Yesterday #37

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #41

And Israel is not Netanyahu... sheshe2 Yesterday #16

Netanyahu was elected by the people of Israel to, among other things, run the military. While individual Israelis are Martin68 Yesterday #25

I'm old enough to remember some being chided for using "Palestine" in lieu of "Hamas". OilemFirchen Yesterday #31

Heady days, yes indeed. sheshe2 Yesterday #35

Message auto-removed Name removed Monday #11

Then let Israel stand trial at the ICC iemanja Yesterday #13

By your own words: sheshe2 Yesterday #17

Mahalo, she, for pointing that out. Cha Yesterday #18

Thank you, Cha. sheshe2 Yesterday #19

I know how you feel.. Cha Yesterday #21

That was a "that was then" then. 🤣 OilemFirchen Yesterday #32

Rolling with the Punches.. mostly. Cha Yesterday #33

Nobody is saying to put random citizens on trial. Cuthbert Allgood Yesterday #24

The ICC tries individuals, not countries. lapucelle 11 hrs ago #49

Aloha, Oilem... TY for this Cha Yesterday #20

There is a death camp being constructed in Rafah iemanja Yesterday #22

😪 annalog Yesterday #27

Thanks for the links. nt cliffside Yesterday #45

Rec. nt LexVegas Yesterday #26

All the Palestinian corpses are just collateral damage and unfortunate mistakes of a "Just War". Ping Tung Yesterday #28

The civilians are the targets iemanja Yesterday #38

I find it obscene that there are those that defend the murders, starvation, injuries, on innocent people. Ping Tung Yesterday #40

Israel has lost the PR war. Everything is forever changed. Duncan Grant Yesterday #36

Well said. H2O Man Yesterday #42

Man, I'd hate to be an Israeli. OilemFirchen Yesterday #43

No one is falling for this manipulative and ineffective rhetoric. Duncan Grant Yesterday #44

I disagree ILikePie92 10 hrs ago #51

I'm not sure if its genocide or not. Samael13 8 hrs ago #54