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Ken Dayenu

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68. I think I do understand why Palestinians would go on a rampage (or at least I can try)

Mon Jul 21, 2025, 11:41 AM

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I don't excuse Oct 7 as I I don't excuse what is going on now in Gaza. Both are horrible. My position is that Israel should completely withdraw from Gaza and complete a prisoner swap. I've said that repeatedly. That said, I do think I can understand why both sides act the way they do or at least I can try. With respect to the settlers, the notion that "this is land is mine, god gave this land to me", I'll never get, but there are potentially other arguments about Israeli security I could understand. Understanding is not the same as excusing or supporting.

I agree with you 100%. There are a lot of double standards with people trying to argue one side or the other is good and the other is evil. I don't think this is helpful.

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Where is the Gaza outrage in the US? [View all] Pototan Sunday OP

At this point I think a lot of people are more focused on the fascist takeover of their own country. BannonsLiver Sunday #1

I think most Americans Pototan Sunday #2

If they could, a fascist takeover of our own country wouldn't be occurring in the first place. W_HAMILTON Sunday #7

That's incorrect. muriel_volestrangler Monday #64

lol all evidence to the contrary. BannonsLiver Sunday #27

"Most" ?? NO--- possibly only about 50 percent Jack Valentino Sunday #32

Isn't about "50%" Pototan Monday #36

TBH, I am struggling every damn day.... Happy Hoosier Yesterday #78

Agreed JustAnotherGen Monday #53

I think the vast majority of Americans have some opinion on Gaza Polybius Sunday #3

Americans did seem to have a strong, priority position Pototan Sunday #4

Funny how that all died out after tsf won. sheshe2 Sunday #11

Has anyone heard a peep from Jill Stein? Pototan Sunday #12

She crawled back under her rock from whence she came. sheshe2 Sunday #15

fyi Be Leave On Monday #38

Could you link me to any Pototan Monday #40

Yes, what a surprise. BannonsLiver Sunday #28

IKR!? sheshe2 Sunday #31

Right? mcar Monday #58

It's almost as if a switch was flipped to the off position. sheshe2 Monday #59

Oh, but Jill Stein is posting both sider shite on Musk's hellsite mcar Monday #62

Almost like it was manufactured outrage.... NT Happy Hoosier Yesterday #79

Trump has given us much else to worry about. Intractable Sunday #14

I'm guessing that you markodochartaigh Monday #34

Over on X - lots of Americans have it a top priority womanofthehills Monday #57

Kicked out of college. Kid Berwyn Sunday #5

The press should ask the questions Pototan Sunday #9

You asked about Jill Stein - I just saw some of her X posts womanofthehills Sunday #20

I don't see Trump's name in these tweets Pototan Sunday #30

Dear God, she's using Gaza to push her "both sides are the same" bullshit. SunSeeker Monday #33

she's done enough damage, now just rubbing it in LymphocyteLover Monday #35

Atrocities would be the correct term B.See Sunday #6

Agreed Pototan Sunday #10

So what would it take to actually get to that point of indefensibility, if we're not already there yet? TheRickles Monday #52

The point of my comment ISN'T B.See Monday #69

Got it - apologies for misunderstanding your comment. TheRickles Monday #70

Being silenced by Trump and Netanyahu. Initech Sunday #8

Palestine attacked Israelis civilians. Now they are stuck Melon Sunday #13

How many children need to be murdered Pototan Sunday #16

I don't think it is revenge at this point Ken Dayenu Sunday #18

In the meantime Pototan Sunday #26

If that is where Hamas is hiding Ken Dayenu Monday #43

Exactly. Hamas is responsible for putting civilians in harm's way. Oopsie Daisy Monday #49

"Palestine" did not attack Israeli civilians. AloeVera Sunday #19

Sure it did. October 7, 2023. They killed, raped, tortured Melon Sunday #22

Never mind. Have a nice evening. AloeVera Sunday #24

Perhaps you should ready some of the forensics. sheshe2 Monday #41

"Five men" UpInArms Yesterday #76

That was Hamas BlueSpot Sunday #29

I agree it's gone to far. But Hamas is the Palestinian people. Since 2007 Melon Monday #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Monday #46

I agree it's gone too far as well Ken Dayenu Monday #47

No. For a start, over half of Palestinians in the occupied territories live in the West Bank, not Gaza muriel_volestrangler Monday #67

Post removed Post removed Monday #71

If Palestinians are not responsible for Hamas Ken Dayenu Monday #55

The mental health of these societies is not the point right now. AloeVera Monday #66

I think I do understand why Palestinians would go on a rampage (or at least I can try) Ken Dayenu Monday #68

I nearly fell off my chair reading the title of your post (in a good way)! AloeVera Monday #73

Understanding Ken Dayenu Yesterday #75

What a fucking heartless thing to say. Condoning war crimes. Its shameful erodriguez Sunday #23

So was 10/07. sheshe2 Monday #42

So the systemic starvation and collective punishment of innocent people are justified? erodriguez Monday #45

I did not say that, now did I. sheshe2 Monday #60

And that's a permanent blank check for Bibi's deliberate campaign of civilian murder, is it? Orrex Sunday #25

It is difficult to be a Jew right now Ken Dayenu Monday #51

I would imagine that it's difficult to be a Palestinian, too. Orrex Monday #61

Absolutely difficult to be a Palestinian right now Ken Dayenu Monday #65

Really? atreides1 Monday #56

If there is no "land called Palestine" Mossfern 21 hrs ago #82

Well, there's plenty of outrage over Gaza right here. Intractable Sunday #17

One consequence of Gaza outrage in the US is shitting in the White House Martin Eden Sunday #21

America voted for Trump Ken Dayenu Monday #48

"Americans got exactly what they wanted" Martin Eden Monday #50

Aw man, the whole thing is just heartbreaking. calimary Monday #37

K&R spanone Monday #44

I feel like there's no way for that outrage to get through. If we had elected Kamala, she could have done Scrivener7 Monday #54

buried under anti-semitism? WhiteTara Monday #63

The rage burned out raging against the Biden Admin's inability to control Israel's war. maxsolomon Monday #72

Or maybe they know they'll be doxxed, intimidated, kicked out of college, jailed, deported, lose their jobs? AloeVera Monday #74

JVP and WOL aren't in college maxsolomon 22 hrs ago #80

Yeah, sure... AloeVera 21 hrs ago #81

Right now, I'm wondering.... Happy Hoosier Yesterday #77