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summer_in_TX

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23. That doesn't mean it isn't dangerous.

Sun Jul 13, 2025, 01:10 AM

Jul 13

Because so many Rs have claimed that, it has sunk in as conventional "wisdom" and many believe it without question.

MindWar: The Psychological War on Democracy
I Asked ChatGPT to Analyze Stephen Miller
https://www.mind-war.com/p/i-asked-chatgpt-to-analyze-stephen

Stephen Miller said on Fox News recently,

"California and Los Angeles are waging insurrection against the federal government. They are protecting those who traffic in the suffering of children. And by the way, do you know why so many of these unaccompanied alien minors are being put to work in slave wages and slave conditions all across California to pay off their cartel debts?

The Democrat Party is funneling these profits. From rape, profits from exploitation, and yes, profits from murder into the hands of the cartels that control the North of Mexico, that assassinate politicians, that assassinate judges, that assassinate women and children, and that smuggle fentanyl into our country.

Cartels are waging war against America and their allies are the Democrat Party and their allies are the Democrat politicians that are incentivizing these migrant mobs to try to murder our ICE officers and call blood. I never thought we would ever see the day when Democrat politicians would use language and use rhetoric that would encourage illegal aliens and radical left nonprofits to try to murder ICE officers. But that's where we are right now. And what we are seeing done to this country is the mass theft of wages from the middle class to the migrant mobs. And that has to stop.“

Jim Stewartson asked ChatGPT to analyze that short speech, without telling it who was the speaker and working to avoid any attempt to trigger bias in the AI. Directions were to analyze this statement and give the implications.

The response?

This statement is an extreme example of eliminationist political rhetoric—the kind that seeks to portray political opponents not just as wrong, but as existential enemies of the nation who are complicit in criminality and violence.

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Incitement to Political Violence
• By equating mainstream Democratic leaders with murderous cartel collaborators, this rhetoric increases the likelihood of political violence.
• This logic can be used to justify extrajudicial actions or vigilante behavior “in defense of the nation.”
• Delegitimization of Lawful Governance
• Accusing a U.S. state of “waging insurrection” delegitimizes any federalist resistance to central authority.
• Undermines trust in local governance, immigration policy, and the rule of law.
• Normalizing Extremism
• Treats ICE, a controversial agency, as sacred and above criticism.
• Describes criticism or protest as attempts to “murder” agents—normalizing the idea that dissent is treason.
• Scapegoating Immigrants
• Immigrants—especially unaccompanied minors—are falsely portrayed as violent, criminal, or parasitic.
• Fuels xenophobic attitudes and policies, including potential mass deportations or even internment.
• Stoking Civil Conflict
• The invocation of “insurrection,” “war,” and “theft from the middle class” positions the speaker’s audience as under siege.
• Sets up the framework for calls to “take the country back,” potentially through violent or authoritarian means.

I *hope* that the fact that the article quoted ChatGPT in what I excerpted and what was quoted is not original human content, there's a little leeway on the length of the excerpts.

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The charade is wearing thin and people are noticing [View all] Bernardo de La Paz Jul 12 OP

Only ten years too late to save the US from destroying itself, entirely avoidably. RockRaven Jul 12 #1

All is not lost. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 12 #2

Yep! What we must NOT do is give up. calimary Jul 12 #3

Here's hoping.... surfered Jul 12 #4

These people are insane on steroids malaise Jul 12 #5

Most nitwit movements eventually implode via their own stupidity. paleotn Jul 12 #6

Noem's statement is hollow from the get-go. Republicans have claimed this about Democrats for decades. Beartracks Jul 12 #7

That doesn't mean it isn't dangerous. summer_in_TX Jul 13 #23

Hey Cuck Miller, if the "Democrat"ic Party were doing those things you would have charged them six months ago. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 13 #24

True, it is very dangerous. Beartracks Jul 13 #26

Wouldn't it be ironic if Epstein finally brings him down malaise Jul 12 #8

Here's another statement that is odorifous of irony Bernardo de La Paz Jul 12 #17

ROFL malaise Jul 12 #20

Please, Elon! Please!! Dave says Jul 12 #18

"They aren't just liberals anymore. If you look at the Democrat Party, they're a party of communists and Marxists and MLWR Jul 12 #9

I Thought They Were Complaining About... ProfessorGAC Jul 12 #10

Self-contradiction is steam-rollered over by their latest outrageous statement or action. And so it repeats. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 12 #15

" Secretary Plastic Garden Noem, why did you fire FEMA workers Hassler Jul 12 #11

ive been called those same tired old ghosts since high school where a rop called me a communist pinko pig . AllaN01Bear Jul 12 #12

It's why we all love you, AllaN01Bear! Dave says Jul 12 #19

Communism is a crappy system, but it's not the crappiest system. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 12 #13

A rose by any other name, as the Bard would say. DFW Jul 12 #16

maga thinks it is all automatically included in the new elite, but they are starting to look around nervously. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 12 #22

There is no such thing as the "Democrat Party." SunSeeker Jul 12 #14

The problem is that way too many Democrats ignored the disrespect re the party name malaise Jul 12 #21

Believe Dems will be smart to not get defensive. MAGAs digging a hole that djt isn't allegorical oracle Jul 13 #25

She has crossed over into MTG territory. Sneederbunk Jul 13 #27