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This OP is prompted by The Gnome's latest bombast: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220479935 senseandsensibility wrote:
"They aren't just liberals anymore. If you look at the Democrat Party, they're a party of communists and Marxists and socialists."
Their rhetoric is getting more extreme by the hour. It's a sign of some desperation and it WON'T help them.
It won't help them because ordinary citizens, who might be low info and inclined to simply trust "the government", ... ordinary citizens will be exposed to the extremity of it more and more. As time goes on, they will increasingly get the impression that the people running the government are over the top, getting bizarre, not making sense, lying.
The regime is a bit desperate because they know they are dropping in the polls, so they want to keep their base and they think that the more extreme they paint the opposition (i.e. us), the more the citizens will rally to their side thinking the US is under attack from ... us. But it will backfire.
Little things like FEMA weak late response begin to be noticed and remembered more.
The charade is wearing thin and becoming more obvious to the people whose adherence is wavering, the people they most desperately are trying to keep away from ... us.

RockRaven
(17,625 posts)Great job, you fuckwits who are maybe possibly getting a clue. Congratulations and thanks for nothing.
Bernardo de La Paz
(57,192 posts)calimary
(87,116 posts)surfered
(8,014 posts)malaise
(286,824 posts)Adding this link
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220480174
paleotn
(20,627 posts)Hubris run amok. They start believing their own bullshit, consume their own bullshit and spew even nuttier bullshit. Leading to an implosion that usually ends in a whimper. Not saying they don't cause serious damage along the way, but the end is quite ignominious. Sometimes so bad they end up becoming a verb. Maybe at some point in the future, to "Trump" means to blow up in a way that's enormously embarrassing and stupid. "Dude had it all, but eventually he "Trumped" and was never heard from again."
I may be whistling past the graveyard. I kind of vacillate on that with the latest outrage. But part of me still doesn't buy the idea that this pack of complete idiots can pull off some dictatorial takeover that's substantial or terribly long lasting. Time will tell.
Beartracks
(14,004 posts)When in the past did Republicans ever acknowledge that Democrats were "just liberals" and not "communists and Marxists and socialists"?
Never.
So, since Republicans always claim Democrats are communists, Marxists, and/or socialists' no matter what Democrats do or say, then their opinion has no merit.
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summer_in_TX
(3,699 posts)Because so many Rs have claimed that, it has sunk in as conventional "wisdom" and many believe it without question.
MindWar: The Psychological War on Democracy
I Asked ChatGPT to Analyze Stephen Miller
https://www.mind-war.com/p/i-asked-chatgpt-to-analyze-stephen
Stephen Miller said on Fox News recently,
"California and Los Angeles are waging insurrection against the federal government. They are protecting those who traffic in the suffering of children. And by the way, do you know why so many of these unaccompanied alien minors are being put to work in slave wages and slave conditions all across California to pay off their cartel debts?
The Democrat Party is funneling these profits. From rape, profits from exploitation, and yes, profits from murder into the hands of the cartels that control the North of Mexico, that assassinate politicians, that assassinate judges, that assassinate women and children, and that smuggle fentanyl into our country.
Cartels are waging war against America and their allies are the Democrat Party and their allies are the Democrat politicians that are incentivizing these migrant mobs to try to murder our ICE officers and call blood. I never thought we would ever see the day when Democrat politicians would use language and use rhetoric that would encourage illegal aliens and radical left nonprofits to try to murder ICE officers. But that's where we are right now. And what we are seeing done to this country is the mass theft of wages from the middle class to the migrant mobs. And that has to stop.
Jim Stewartson asked ChatGPT to analyze that short speech, without telling it who was the speaker and working to avoid any attempt to trigger bias in the AI. Directions were to analyze this statement and give the implications.
The response?
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By equating mainstream Democratic leaders with murderous cartel collaborators, this rhetoric increases the likelihood of political violence.
This logic can be used to justify extrajudicial actions or vigilante behavior in defense of the nation.
Delegitimization of Lawful Governance
Accusing a U.S. state of waging insurrection delegitimizes any federalist resistance to central authority.
Undermines trust in local governance, immigration policy, and the rule of law.
Normalizing Extremism
Treats ICE, a controversial agency, as sacred and above criticism.
Describes criticism or protest as attempts to murder agentsnormalizing the idea that dissent is treason.
Scapegoating Immigrants
Immigrantsespecially unaccompanied minorsare falsely portrayed as violent, criminal, or parasitic.
Fuels xenophobic attitudes and policies, including potential mass deportations or even internment.
Stoking Civil Conflict
The invocation of insurrection, war, and theft from the middle class positions the speakers audience as under siege.
Sets up the framework for calls to take the country back, potentially through violent or authoritarian means.
I *hope* that the fact that the article quoted ChatGPT in what I excerpted and what was quoted is not original human content, there's a little leeway on the length of the excerpts.
Bernardo de La Paz
(57,192 posts)Beartracks
(14,004 posts)But I didn't mean the baseless opinions of Republicans should be ignored. Rather, that Democrats shouldn't waste precious time and resources compromising their ideals in order to try to appease these Republicans.
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malaise
(286,824 posts)That is all
Bernardo de La Paz
(57,192 posts)@Kash_Patel
The conspiracy theories just arent true, never have been. Its an honor to serve the President of the United States @realDonaldTrump
and Ill continue to do so for as long as he calls on me.
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malaise
(286,824 posts)Sometimes I wonder if were watching a bad soap opera or real life.
The kings and queens of conspiracy theories are complaining😀
Dave says
(5,187 posts)MLWR
(414 posts)socialists."
So, says Krasnov's nazi. I probably won't live long enough, but I really hope that this episode in our history is not glossed over and these thugs are one day brought to account.
ProfessorGAC
(73,651 posts).. dems being the party of rich elites.
There are rich Marxists? How does that work? The two terms are anathema.
Bernardo de La Paz
(57,192 posts)Hassler
(4,457 posts)In the middle of a flood disaster?" How about asking Press Corpse? Then ask "Why was Mexico able to respond faster than your FEMA?"
AllaN01Bear
(26,532 posts)and various others most of my adult waking hours . i wear that as a badge of honor. oh ive been caled woke as well.
Dave says
(5,187 posts)On edit: youre one of us!
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,051 posts)That appellation is reserved for fascism with its emphasis on heirachy. At least in small c communism we're all equal.
DFW
(58,514 posts)ALL systems tend to have their elites. The more dogmatic the system, the more tightly its elite insists on control. Laissez-faire capitalism will have the luckiest rise to the top. A regulated capitalism (e.g. a social democracy) will have its cleverest rise to the top. Socialism in just about any form tends to have its cruelest rise to the top, always using equality as a phony cover for its elite claiming absolute power, looking out for the people. Whether Soviet Socialism, National Socialism, goulyás socialism, probably Democratic Socialism too, if it should ever come to power somewhere. Countries claiming to be socialist invariably end up becoming countries that people flee, not countries where they run to seek sanctuary. It sounds great on paper, never works out in practice.
Bernardo de La Paz
(57,192 posts)SunSeeker
(56,168 posts)You immediately know when someone use that term, they are right wing nut jobs and liars.
malaise
(286,824 posts)on TV, in fora and even in the House and Senate. Dems should have officially objected and entered it into the Congressional records every effin time ReTHUGs said it. They should also not tolerate it from media hacks and their guests.
Even here some folks think we make too much of it.
allegorical oracle
(5,388 posts)happy about. Stay quiet, listen, and let them keep digging.