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JohnSJ

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48. It isn't a question of blame, it is a question of what happened. Young people have never been a reliable
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:40 AM
May 16

voting group.

As for older demographic, at least in the demographic today, they absolutely vote. Problem is that their votes are usually more republican.

While every vote counts, today it is the independents who will determine the election, and those in the swing states.

Perhaps the best example is what happened in the swing states in 2016.

In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while in those same critical swing staters Jill Stein received 1% of the vote.

It didn't take much, but it made all the difference.

A similar thing occurred in 2000 with Nader intentionally working to encourage people in critical states not to vote Democratic, because he stupidly impressed that there was "no difference between Democrats and republicans". A completely asinine statement, just based on the Supreme Court we have today.

Just look at Supreme Court justices that Democrats nominated verses republicans.

In 2024 Latinos and labor split the vote, and while Harris did get most of the Women votes, the turnout was less than anticipated. Last but not least the protesters on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, especially in the midwest swing states did not vote Democratic, even though it was very clear that Harris would NOT have done what trump said he was going to do. Harris made it clear:

1. Ceasefire
2. Release all hostages
3. Rebuild Gaza
4. Back to the negotiations for a two-state solution.

The result of the 2024 election has insured the SC is lost for at least a generation, and the damage trump is doing and will do for the next four years will be very hard to reverse.

and while the whole country will pay the price, the highest price will be paid by the young people. Those Rogan fan boys are going to be paying the piper for a long time for listening and giving credibility to fools like Rogan.











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BAD MOVE: Chasstev365 May 13 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Melon May 13 #2
Agree. choie May 13 #3
It's not only his election that's being "overturned". He's choosing to *make* this about himself rather than a LauraInLA May 13 #9
Agree. MorbidButterflyTat May 14 #11
playing well with others is part of what the fucking problem is Skittles May 14 #21
"Playing well with others", like everything else, may be a benefit or a deficit. You're not wrong, but it's still LauraInLA May 14 #34
Skittles I couldn't recommend your post enough! choie May 14 #41
Young people have already sealed their fate with their refusal to JohnSJ May 13 #6
You can post till you are blue in the face, and not enough people talk about voter apathy. 58Sunliner May 14 #27
and that won't change until the people who actually are hurt by these policies get off their butt and vote, and JohnSJ May 14 #30
What about the old people who voted Democratic in 2000, 2016 and 2024 PufPuf23 May 16 #47
It isn't a question of blame, it is a question of what happened. Young people have never been a reliable JohnSJ May 16 #48
So if the rules were broken and a woman got screwed out of the position...it's just too bad? tritsofme May 13 #8
I'd be willing to bet that 9 out of 10 Mountainguy May 14 #16
There isn't any evidence that young voters care about this Kaleva May 14 #20
Trump made gains with young voters in 2024 Kaleva May 14 #19
Yes, dumb move BoRaGard May 14 #23
Public figures they trust telling them Democrats are corrupt, bribed by oligarchs and billionaires and donors, betsuni May 14 #25
Exactly. H2O Man May 16 #44
Young people don't care about David Hogg Mountainguy May 16 #46
And you know this exactly HOW? Jilly_in_VA May 17 #51
Is this gonna Traildogbob May 13 #4
Both Sides... Not Cool. That's what got Mump Cha May 13 #5
Exactly, Cha. That was the first head slapper he put out . Both sides. Nixie May 13 #7
Hey Aloha, Nixie... Cha May 14 #10
Thanks for this, Cha! Great post. Nixie May 14 #13
Yes Kaylin Free's Bio is Cha May 14 #14
He can do something else. He was hogging up too much of the spotlight. n/t valleyrogue May 14 #12
And not in a good way... yorkster May 14 #15
It's not the job of anyone at DNC to "reshape the party" Mountainguy May 14 #17
Bad move ibegurpard May 14 #18
Hogg's political career Lullybuy May 14 #22
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote May 14 #36
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote May 17 #49
Despite Hogg's attempts, as well as the media, to center this revote on himself Docreed2003 May 14 #24
The timing of this seems suspicious 🤨 SocialDemocrat61 May 14 #26
Will Hogg go quietly into the night? cachukis May 14 #28
I agree with Hogg's goal, I think his strategy is divisive, and I think his victimization is disappointing. CincyDem May 14 #29
You left out Malcolm Kenyatta JustAnotherGen May 14 #31
This is why democrats lose. nt Autumn May 14 #32
Nice headline. Makes it sound like Hogg did something bad when it was procedural travelingthrulife May 14 #33
The rules of the Democratic Party need to be complied with LetMyPeopleVote May 14 #35
While I'm not a Hogg fan, I feel he will be revengeful if he's ousted Polybius May 14 #37
It will be an election that involves all the prospective candidates, because the process was screwed up, JohnSJ May 14 #38
Like we want to be like Repugs and let one man radical noodle May 15 #42
I'm not saying to bend the rules for him Polybius May 16 #43
Well, he may radical noodle May 16 #45
Message auto-removed Name removed May 14 #39
Well Hi JJ!!! Interesting....I have the same initials? Are GP6971 May 14 #40
This is why democrats keep losing pinkstarburst May 17 #50
Where did they pull that out of? Emile May 17 #52
Dumb move on the DNC's part. The timing is very suspicious and will definiterly be viewed that way by young voters who KPN May 17 #53
Look, I am a very old Dem (almost 81) Jilly_in_VA May 17 #54
Do you have a source re: Hogg "both sides" arguments? KPN May 17 #55
So what happened exactly Samael13 May 17 #56
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