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lees1975

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148. Ah, baloney.

Tue May 13, 2025, 08:54 PM

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Trump is back in office because Democratic politicians wanted to play old school politics instead of seeing things for what they were. A couple of bold, risky moves, like packing the Supreme Court, and Trump has no pathway back to the White House. Makes me think they are more interested into hanging on to their seats and traditions than serving the people. Sure looks that way.

People are tired of this gridlock, and change is one of the reasons Trump even stands a chance at all. WE need educated change, not stupid change.

Keep it up David. You've got my support, and you have every dime of my regular contribution to Democratic candidates, for whatever it is worth. Stand up stand firm and get this done, it's time to dump the garbage and win some elections.

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I think it would be a big mistake if the DNC got rid of David Hogg. [View all] kentuck Tuesday OP

That is an understatement malaise Tuesday #1

Agreed. MWLib Tuesday #129

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe Tuesday #151

Another unforced error by the DNC lostnfound Yesterday #184

I agree! nt lark Tuesday #2

K&R spanone Tuesday #3

Totally agree 👍 Emile Tuesday #4

He's a talent. bucolic_frolic Tuesday #5

We need numbers. murielm99 Tuesday #15

Coincidentally ... krkaufman Tuesday #17

I stand by what I said. murielm99 Tuesday #20

AND people who know something about politics and winning elections stopdiggin Tuesday #65

I agree to a point dflprincess Tuesday #34

Democratic Party can flip seats and replaces ineffective incumbents. PufPuf23 Tuesday #163

Yep - hands off the CBC JustAnotherGen Tuesday #41

Democrats run against Democrats ALL The Time. .. littlemissmartypants Tuesday #60

this is about using 'party' apparatus (and funding) stopdiggin Tuesday #71

Looks like some straight up bickering. ... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #76

Incumbent democrats that are empty suits... FarPoint Tuesday #63

Selective districts V850i Tuesday #109

He is only proposing running against incumbents is safe districts. I agree 100%. If you are not fighting for the Pisces Tuesday #159

Agree 100% onlyadream Yesterday #183

Totally agree DownriverDem Tuesday #140

We hear that every election. PufPuf23 Tuesday #161

Because that works so well ... nt TBF Tuesday #106

It did when AOC primaried a useless incumbent. Shipwack Tuesday #130

That was my point - TBF Yesterday #189

Oh, ok... :) nt Shipwack Yesterday #192

I hope he teaches the old system new tricks. Because the old has had it chance. usaf-vet Tuesday #112

I think that's the piece folks are missing - TBF Yesterday #194

Agree. Railroading him out would be incredibly stupid. Maru Kitteh Tuesday #6

Another own goal! Go team! Ponietz Tuesday #7

Yes, David running Democrats against Democrats is an own goal bottomofthehill Tuesday #27

It's an own goal either way get it? Ponietz Tuesday #30

Why put old school Democrats back in who want to compromise and self-preserve? lees1975 Tuesday #56

Very simple, that is not the way to take back anything bottomofthehill Tuesday #58

that is the mantra. problem is, as often as it is repeated - it's not very convincing stopdiggin Tuesday #74

Ah, baloney. lees1975 Tuesday #148

again - a nice speech. "change!" "bold moves" "gridlock" "hanging on to their seats" stopdiggin Tuesday #150

Exactly! Gimpyknee Tuesday #167

Term limits is the DOGE approach to firing people: MadameButterfly Yesterday #177

Term limits? Cirsium Yesterday #193

Lol. That's what we've been doing, no? KPN Tuesday #75

It's called a primary and it happens all the time. Cuthbert Allgood Tuesday #131

Big money donors timms139 Tuesday #72

Agree !!!! Karadeniz Tuesday #8

Agree Easterncedar Tuesday #9

Exactly! EmmaLee E Tuesday #57

He is the future and the OLD GUYS and GALs need to start realizing they have to start working with them. Fla Dem Tuesday #10

If he is the future, let him put his name on the ballot in Florida bottomofthehill Tuesday #29

Agreed - and don't forget - Malcom Kenyatta JustAnotherGen Tuesday #42

Absolutely, he has put his name on the ballot bottomofthehill Tuesday #43

Or start with races like school boards where he would be a good fit. LisaM Tuesday #49

Totally agree bottomofthehill Tuesday #51

He hasn't lived in FL for many years Arazi Tuesday #61

OK, I am with you, Trauma is real bottomofthehill Tuesday #64

Do we like carpetbaggers now? Arazi Tuesday #79

So we think it a good idea to follow a 25 year old bottomofthehill Tuesday #86

I think he's proposing new ideas Arazi Tuesday #88

What I am actually saying is that bottomofthehill Tuesday #89

I think the current moment demands new strategy Arazi Tuesday #95

Yeah, you tell those youngsters to get Bettie Tuesday #99

Exactly. I'd rather have an old-school Democrat than a young woman that's all mouth and no action. Walleye Tuesday #67

The older ones need to start training Linda ladeewolf Tuesday #40

only one member in their 20s uponit7771 Tuesday #101

I'm 82. I hope AOC runs against Schumer. Hogg says he doesn't want to run for public office. 3Hotdogs Tuesday #11

You may like the idea of it but bottomofthehill Tuesday #46

OK, Dan Goldman then tishaLA Tuesday #142

I love that you think of Dan Goldman as a moderate. bottomofthehill Tuesday #145

Yet, they probably will. They do not seem to have a long-term strategy to win; just a short term... Ol Janx Spirit Tuesday #12

At some point those who oppose gun violence will outnumber NRA nuts IronLionZion Tuesday #13

Would have thought the same re: Choice krkaufman Tuesday #18

More young people turn 18 every day. Lots of potential new voters IronLionZion Tuesday #24

Demographics are on our side now. Doesn't really do us any good. Walleye Tuesday #69

I agree Puppyjive Tuesday #14

I agree, and with the low approval rating of current democrats, its time for some changes sboatcar Tuesday #39

Totally agree. He's a bridge to the youth vote, no matter how he presents his views. ancianita Tuesday #16

Hard pass. Oopsie Daisy Tuesday #19

He is part of a group already that raised millions JI7 Tuesday #21

Someone needs to tell him that the object is to replace Republicans with Democrats!! Oopsie Daisy Tuesday #113

Like hiring an exterminator for a rat problem and they think the job is to exterminate YOU! betsuni Yesterday #170

I seen this post earlier. Blue Full Moon Tuesday #22

Everyone needs to contact the DNC idahoblue Tuesday #23

I used to agree with this sentiment Gingermolly Tuesday #25

"brash, full of himself, shallow, and a bit of a grifter .. " stopdiggin Tuesday #80

James Carville? Bernie? Gavin Newsom? Bill Clinton? Arazi Tuesday #98

So - no cause for concern then? Gotcha! stopdiggin Tuesday #127

Certainly cause for concern but anyone playing political games is "brash" Arazi Tuesday #133

Agree. It shows they are not capable of negotiating a positive outcome. travelingthrulife Tuesday #26

I think we need to give Kalyn Free a chance to be heard JustAnotherGen Tuesday #28

Yes, I agree. pinkstarburst Tuesday #31

In my opinion... kentuck Tuesday #32

The DNC seems to be more interested in fighting Democrats than Trump and his Autumn Tuesday #33

Also, I think the 29% approval rating for the Party... kentuck Tuesday #35

One would think so but the status quo must be maintained. No matter what. nt Autumn Tuesday #45

I seldom disagree with you... kentuck Tuesday #48

Dems low approval rating is because so many Dems are attempting to maintain the Autumn Tuesday #110

You've got that right! ReRe Yesterday #171

They're doing nothing but simply banking on winning the House by default in '26 - but they might find a 29% approval Midwestern Democrat Tuesday #155

Then that's something they have in common with Hogg-type progressives! W_HAMILTON Tuesday #103

The DNC has nothing in common with any type of Progressive. Autumn Tuesday #108

Yeah, bullshit. W_HAMILTON Tuesday #116

I would argue it is actually that the US doesn't know what the left is. Cuthbert Allgood Tuesday #132

And Hillary, "Single-payer health care will "never, ever" happen" Autumn Yesterday #186

Yes, the redefinition of the word means anti-establishment populist "Us" versus the Democratic establishment "Them." betsuni Yesterday #175

Or the Progressives see themselves as a separate part of the party Cuthbert Allgood 21 hrs ago #200

Yes ILikePie92 Tuesday #36

We we need new thinking, in addition to new blood. Kid Berwyn Tuesday #37

What are his qualifications? A victim of a mass shooting, an advocate JohnSJ Tuesday #38

David Hogg is energizing and part of the future Wild blueberry Tuesday #44

Is he really? Where were they in 2024? Listening to joe rogan? Where were these same demographics in JohnSJ Tuesday #53

organize Paul-EM Tuesday #47

Still think it was duplicitous of him to run for yorkster Tuesday #50

Duplicitous is my issue with him. We are here because of divisiveness. More of it isn't a solution. live love laugh Tuesday #122

I agree with you. OLDMDDEM Tuesday #52

Agreed al bupp Tuesday #54

The idea of being a party nominee for life, no matter how you perform, is ridiculous. Yes to Hogg! Doodley Tuesday #55

Yeah, go ahead shove them out. It doesn't matter if they've been effective or not. They are old they gotta go Walleye Tuesday #70

and that is the kind of shallow 'strategy' that many perceive (and oppose) stopdiggin Tuesday #81

yes and whatever et tu Tuesday #59

I totally agree... FarPoint Tuesday #62

I agree 👍 TommieMommy Tuesday #66

Narcissism Abundance77 Tuesday #68

Post removed Post removed Tuesday #73

On spot. It could kill us in '26! Gotta get the corporate money lovers out so we can get money out of our elections n/t Cheezoholic Tuesday #78

I don't see how "getting money out of our elections" is possible for the foreseeable future. LauraInLA Tuesday #87

No it won't. Oopsie Daisy Tuesday #125

Don't you realize how hard he makes it to peer wearily over one's glasses? Orrex Tuesday #77

This infighting does NOT serve the Democratic Party peggysue2 Tuesday #82

Agree, thanks for the direct post. NT bcbink Tuesday #83

Disagree Meowmee Tuesday #84

Sorry, but David Hogg Mountainguy Tuesday #85

Re-building the Democratic Party into what? It's a political party. betsuni Tuesday #90

"Dems have abandoned men who just want to 'get laid and have fun,' " CaptainTruth Tuesday #91

said a mouthful there. stopdiggin Yesterday #180

He's probably more dangerous outside than he is in. Renew Deal Tuesday #92

Hogg's recent comments are disturbing Cirsium Tuesday #93

+1. That is a really, REALLY bad look. pretty toxic in fact. stopdiggin Tuesday #128

Not sure Cirsium Tuesday #137

sorry for any confusion. No, clearly Hogg is speaking directly off a Republican stopdiggin Tuesday #143

Thanks Cirsium Tuesday #144

Yes, instead of calling out the bs he is playing into it JI7 Yesterday #187

What makes you think he'd lose the revote? nt SunSeeker Tuesday #94

Fully agree! mzmolly Tuesday #96

As a 71 year old white male.... WVreaper Tuesday #97

It would be fair if they primaried every incumbent Kaleva Tuesday #111

As I recall, there was zero support here at the time for primary opponents against Joe Biden's reelection MichMan Yesterday #190

People tend to support primary challenges only in certain situations Kaleva Yesterday #196

Which is why I disagree with you that every incumbent should be primaried MichMan Yesterday #197

That was tongue in check Kaleva 23 hrs ago #198

Agreed uponit7771 Tuesday #100

Big mistake. It echoes the major flubbing with dumping Joe Biden. That hurt Harris' chances badly. marble falls Tuesday #102

If he stayed in, it would have eliminated Harris' chances. SunSeeker Tuesday #105

How many votes did she get in the first round? questionseverything Tuesday #123

Well exactly. Seems like Hogg will win the re-vote. SunSeeker Tuesday #138

I think she is saying, she would win the woman slot? questionseverything Tuesday #153

There are TWO seats available. If she gets one, there's still one for Hogg or Kenyatta. SunSeeker Tuesday #166

Kenyatta did way better last time questionseverything Yesterday #172

But did Kenyatta get more votes than Hogg? nt SunSeeker Yesterday #173

Almost 100 more questionseverything Yesterday #178

Kenyatta got 100 more votes than Hogg? SunSeeker Yesterday #179

Kenyetta got 298 votes and hogg 214.5 votes questionseverything Yesterday #182

completely agree! mike_c Tuesday #104

I couldn't agree more. What they are doing looks dirty. He's not playing the game so they are taking him out Pisces Tuesday #107

are they talking about doing that? barbtries Tuesday #114

I agree OldDem1 Tuesday #115

Hogg's situation aside, I do want to know why our leadership now insists on acting like fucking Karasu Tuesday #117

We're acting like Republicans by allowing a Native American woman her due process... W_HAMILTON Tuesday #119

I'm actually with you on that SPECIFIC issue, hence why I said I'm not defending Hogg specifically. Karasu Tuesday #120

How many votes did she get in the first vote? questionseverything Tuesday #124

Sets a bad precedent manicdem Tuesday #118

I agree wholeheartedly. I was lambasted for saying this, but I think they should have made a point of LauraInLA Tuesday #136

I'm not seeing much urgency at all MichMan Tuesday #154

That's my point. This flawed election has now created a huge kerfuffle that will inevitably leave someone LauraInLA Tuesday #165

I agree. aintitfunny Tuesday #121

His marketing team should be fired. Festivito Tuesday #126

And Harris was a communist. Cuthbert Allgood Tuesday #134

Yep Faux pas Tuesday #135

K&R red dog 1 Tuesday #139

The party rules need to be complied with LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #141

Thank you for clearing this up Pompoy Yesterday #174

ANYBODY B.See Tuesday #146

david v goliath orchidlady Tuesday #147

Completely agree. We NEED the youth input. nt Exp Tuesday #149

He was pathetic in his appearance with Bill Maher Pompoy Tuesday #152

Well... gotta agree with you there. B.See Tuesday #158

Bravo! Yes to everything you said. He was very bad on an MSNBC segment Nixie Tuesday #168

Insanity... OC375 Tuesday #156

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #195

I agree wendyb-NC Tuesday #157

100% mahina Tuesday #160

But the DNC has specialized in "pretty big mistakes" for quite a few years, no ? Jack Valentino Tuesday #162

David Hogg doesn't need the DNC. The new Democratic party is going to be a grassroots effort. flashman13 Tuesday #164

I Agree proud patriot Tuesday #169

He may not be the right young leader. RandySF Yesterday #176

Malcolm Kenyatta is only 34. The re-vote for the 2nd seat will be between Kenyatta and Hogg. nt SunSeeker Yesterday #181

Again, the money is trying to take control. Don't let them. Mr.WeRP Yesterday #185

Do you think Kalyn Free and Malcom Kenyatta are for billionaires? SunSeeker 22 hrs ago #199

I agree, but he can't fight other Democrats oldmanlynn Yesterday #188

Can the Democratic Party walk and chew gum at the same time? lonely bird Yesterday #191

Malcolm Kenyatta is on MSNBC now saying Hogg needs to stop Nixie 19 hrs ago #201