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27. Yes, David running Democrats against Democrats is an own goal

Tue May 13, 2025, 10:30 AM

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Time to run Democrats against Republicans. Maybe that is the path back to the Majority, using resources to beat Republicans.

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I think it would be a big mistake if the DNC got rid of David Hogg. [View all] kentuck Tuesday OP

That is an understatement malaise Tuesday #1

Agreed. MWLib Tuesday #129

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe Tuesday #151

Another unforced error by the DNC lostnfound Yesterday #184

I agree! nt lark Tuesday #2

K&R spanone Tuesday #3

Totally agree 👍 Emile Tuesday #4

He's a talent. bucolic_frolic Tuesday #5

We need numbers. murielm99 Tuesday #15

Coincidentally ... krkaufman Tuesday #17

I stand by what I said. murielm99 Tuesday #20

AND people who know something about politics and winning elections stopdiggin Tuesday #65

I agree to a point dflprincess Tuesday #34

Democratic Party can flip seats and replaces ineffective incumbents. PufPuf23 Tuesday #163

Yep - hands off the CBC JustAnotherGen Tuesday #41

Democrats run against Democrats ALL The Time. .. littlemissmartypants Tuesday #60

this is about using 'party' apparatus (and funding) stopdiggin Tuesday #71

Looks like some straight up bickering. ... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #76

Incumbent democrats that are empty suits... FarPoint Tuesday #63

Selective districts V850i Tuesday #109

He is only proposing running against incumbents is safe districts. I agree 100%. If you are not fighting for the Pisces Tuesday #159

Agree 100% onlyadream Yesterday #183

Totally agree DownriverDem Tuesday #140

We hear that every election. PufPuf23 Tuesday #161

Because that works so well ... nt TBF Tuesday #106

It did when AOC primaried a useless incumbent. Shipwack Tuesday #130

That was my point - TBF Yesterday #189

Oh, ok... :) nt Shipwack Yesterday #192

I hope he teaches the old system new tricks. Because the old has had it chance. usaf-vet Tuesday #112

I think that's the piece folks are missing - TBF Yesterday #194

Agree. Railroading him out would be incredibly stupid. Maru Kitteh Tuesday #6

Another own goal! Go team! Ponietz Tuesday #7

Yes, David running Democrats against Democrats is an own goal bottomofthehill Tuesday #27

It's an own goal either way get it? Ponietz Tuesday #30

Why put old school Democrats back in who want to compromise and self-preserve? lees1975 Tuesday #56

Very simple, that is not the way to take back anything bottomofthehill Tuesday #58

that is the mantra. problem is, as often as it is repeated - it's not very convincing stopdiggin Tuesday #74

Ah, baloney. lees1975 Tuesday #148

again - a nice speech. "change!" "bold moves" "gridlock" "hanging on to their seats" stopdiggin Tuesday #150

Exactly! Gimpyknee Tuesday #167

Term limits is the DOGE approach to firing people: MadameButterfly Yesterday #177

Term limits? Cirsium Yesterday #193

Lol. That's what we've been doing, no? KPN Tuesday #75

It's called a primary and it happens all the time. Cuthbert Allgood Tuesday #131

Big money donors timms139 Tuesday #72

Agree !!!! Karadeniz Tuesday #8

Agree Easterncedar Tuesday #9

Exactly! EmmaLee E Tuesday #57

He is the future and the OLD GUYS and GALs need to start realizing they have to start working with them. Fla Dem Tuesday #10

If he is the future, let him put his name on the ballot in Florida bottomofthehill Tuesday #29

Agreed - and don't forget - Malcom Kenyatta JustAnotherGen Tuesday #42

Absolutely, he has put his name on the ballot bottomofthehill Tuesday #43

Or start with races like school boards where he would be a good fit. LisaM Tuesday #49

Totally agree bottomofthehill Tuesday #51

He hasn't lived in FL for many years Arazi Tuesday #61

OK, I am with you, Trauma is real bottomofthehill Tuesday #64

Do we like carpetbaggers now? Arazi Tuesday #79

So we think it a good idea to follow a 25 year old bottomofthehill Tuesday #86

I think he's proposing new ideas Arazi Tuesday #88

What I am actually saying is that bottomofthehill Tuesday #89

I think the current moment demands new strategy Arazi Tuesday #95

Yeah, you tell those youngsters to get Bettie Tuesday #99

Exactly. I'd rather have an old-school Democrat than a young woman that's all mouth and no action. Walleye Tuesday #67

The older ones need to start training Linda ladeewolf Tuesday #40

only one member in their 20s uponit7771 Tuesday #101

I'm 82. I hope AOC runs against Schumer. Hogg says he doesn't want to run for public office. 3Hotdogs Tuesday #11

You may like the idea of it but bottomofthehill Tuesday #46

OK, Dan Goldman then tishaLA Tuesday #142

I love that you think of Dan Goldman as a moderate. bottomofthehill Tuesday #145

Yet, they probably will. They do not seem to have a long-term strategy to win; just a short term... Ol Janx Spirit Tuesday #12

At some point those who oppose gun violence will outnumber NRA nuts IronLionZion Tuesday #13

Would have thought the same re: Choice krkaufman Tuesday #18

More young people turn 18 every day. Lots of potential new voters IronLionZion Tuesday #24

Demographics are on our side now. Doesn't really do us any good. Walleye Tuesday #69

I agree Puppyjive Tuesday #14

I agree, and with the low approval rating of current democrats, its time for some changes sboatcar Tuesday #39

Totally agree. He's a bridge to the youth vote, no matter how he presents his views. ancianita Tuesday #16

Hard pass. Oopsie Daisy Tuesday #19

He is part of a group already that raised millions JI7 Tuesday #21

Someone needs to tell him that the object is to replace Republicans with Democrats!! Oopsie Daisy Tuesday #113

Like hiring an exterminator for a rat problem and they think the job is to exterminate YOU! betsuni Yesterday #170

I seen this post earlier. Blue Full Moon Tuesday #22

Everyone needs to contact the DNC idahoblue Tuesday #23

I used to agree with this sentiment Gingermolly Tuesday #25

"brash, full of himself, shallow, and a bit of a grifter .. " stopdiggin Tuesday #80

James Carville? Bernie? Gavin Newsom? Bill Clinton? Arazi Tuesday #98

So - no cause for concern then? Gotcha! stopdiggin Tuesday #127

Certainly cause for concern but anyone playing political games is "brash" Arazi Tuesday #133

Agree. It shows they are not capable of negotiating a positive outcome. travelingthrulife Tuesday #26

I think we need to give Kalyn Free a chance to be heard JustAnotherGen Tuesday #28

Yes, I agree. pinkstarburst Tuesday #31

In my opinion... kentuck Tuesday #32

The DNC seems to be more interested in fighting Democrats than Trump and his Autumn Tuesday #33

Also, I think the 29% approval rating for the Party... kentuck Tuesday #35

One would think so but the status quo must be maintained. No matter what. nt Autumn Tuesday #45

I seldom disagree with you... kentuck Tuesday #48

Dems low approval rating is because so many Dems are attempting to maintain the Autumn Tuesday #110

You've got that right! ReRe Yesterday #171

They're doing nothing but simply banking on winning the House by default in '26 - but they might find a 29% approval Midwestern Democrat Tuesday #155

Then that's something they have in common with Hogg-type progressives! W_HAMILTON Tuesday #103

The DNC has nothing in common with any type of Progressive. Autumn Tuesday #108

Yeah, bullshit. W_HAMILTON Tuesday #116

I would argue it is actually that the US doesn't know what the left is. Cuthbert Allgood Tuesday #132

And Hillary, "Single-payer health care will "never, ever" happen" Autumn Yesterday #186

Yes, the redefinition of the word means anti-establishment populist "Us" versus the Democratic establishment "Them." betsuni Yesterday #175

Or the Progressives see themselves as a separate part of the party Cuthbert Allgood 21 hrs ago #200

Yes ILikePie92 Tuesday #36

We we need new thinking, in addition to new blood. Kid Berwyn Tuesday #37

What are his qualifications? A victim of a mass shooting, an advocate JohnSJ Tuesday #38

David Hogg is energizing and part of the future Wild blueberry Tuesday #44

Is he really? Where were they in 2024? Listening to joe rogan? Where were these same demographics in JohnSJ Tuesday #53

organize Paul-EM Tuesday #47

Still think it was duplicitous of him to run for yorkster Tuesday #50

Duplicitous is my issue with him. We are here because of divisiveness. More of it isn't a solution. live love laugh Tuesday #122

I agree with you. OLDMDDEM Tuesday #52

Agreed al bupp Tuesday #54

The idea of being a party nominee for life, no matter how you perform, is ridiculous. Yes to Hogg! Doodley Tuesday #55

Yeah, go ahead shove them out. It doesn't matter if they've been effective or not. They are old they gotta go Walleye Tuesday #70

and that is the kind of shallow 'strategy' that many perceive (and oppose) stopdiggin Tuesday #81

yes and whatever et tu Tuesday #59

I totally agree... FarPoint Tuesday #62

I agree 👍 TommieMommy Tuesday #66

Narcissism Abundance77 Tuesday #68

Post removed Post removed Tuesday #73

On spot. It could kill us in '26! Gotta get the corporate money lovers out so we can get money out of our elections n/t Cheezoholic Tuesday #78

I don't see how "getting money out of our elections" is possible for the foreseeable future. LauraInLA Tuesday #87

No it won't. Oopsie Daisy Tuesday #125

Don't you realize how hard he makes it to peer wearily over one's glasses? Orrex Tuesday #77

This infighting does NOT serve the Democratic Party peggysue2 Tuesday #82

Agree, thanks for the direct post. NT bcbink Tuesday #83

Disagree Meowmee Tuesday #84

Sorry, but David Hogg Mountainguy Tuesday #85

Re-building the Democratic Party into what? It's a political party. betsuni Tuesday #90

"Dems have abandoned men who just want to 'get laid and have fun,' " CaptainTruth Tuesday #91

said a mouthful there. stopdiggin Yesterday #180

He's probably more dangerous outside than he is in. Renew Deal Tuesday #92

Hogg's recent comments are disturbing Cirsium Tuesday #93

+1. That is a really, REALLY bad look. pretty toxic in fact. stopdiggin Tuesday #128

Not sure Cirsium Tuesday #137

sorry for any confusion. No, clearly Hogg is speaking directly off a Republican stopdiggin Tuesday #143

Thanks Cirsium Tuesday #144

Yes, instead of calling out the bs he is playing into it JI7 Yesterday #187

What makes you think he'd lose the revote? nt SunSeeker Tuesday #94

Fully agree! mzmolly Tuesday #96

As a 71 year old white male.... WVreaper Tuesday #97

It would be fair if they primaried every incumbent Kaleva Tuesday #111

As I recall, there was zero support here at the time for primary opponents against Joe Biden's reelection MichMan Yesterday #190

People tend to support primary challenges only in certain situations Kaleva Yesterday #196

Which is why I disagree with you that every incumbent should be primaried MichMan Yesterday #197

That was tongue in check Kaleva 23 hrs ago #198

Agreed uponit7771 Tuesday #100

Big mistake. It echoes the major flubbing with dumping Joe Biden. That hurt Harris' chances badly. marble falls Tuesday #102

If he stayed in, it would have eliminated Harris' chances. SunSeeker Tuesday #105

How many votes did she get in the first round? questionseverything Tuesday #123

Well exactly. Seems like Hogg will win the re-vote. SunSeeker Tuesday #138

I think she is saying, she would win the woman slot? questionseverything Tuesday #153

There are TWO seats available. If she gets one, there's still one for Hogg or Kenyatta. SunSeeker Tuesday #166

Kenyatta did way better last time questionseverything Yesterday #172

But did Kenyatta get more votes than Hogg? nt SunSeeker Yesterday #173

Almost 100 more questionseverything Yesterday #178

Kenyatta got 100 more votes than Hogg? SunSeeker Yesterday #179

Kenyetta got 298 votes and hogg 214.5 votes questionseverything Yesterday #182

completely agree! mike_c Tuesday #104

I couldn't agree more. What they are doing looks dirty. He's not playing the game so they are taking him out Pisces Tuesday #107

are they talking about doing that? barbtries Tuesday #114

I agree OldDem1 Tuesday #115

Hogg's situation aside, I do want to know why our leadership now insists on acting like fucking Karasu Tuesday #117

We're acting like Republicans by allowing a Native American woman her due process... W_HAMILTON Tuesday #119

I'm actually with you on that SPECIFIC issue, hence why I said I'm not defending Hogg specifically. Karasu Tuesday #120

How many votes did she get in the first vote? questionseverything Tuesday #124

Sets a bad precedent manicdem Tuesday #118

I agree wholeheartedly. I was lambasted for saying this, but I think they should have made a point of LauraInLA Tuesday #136

I'm not seeing much urgency at all MichMan Tuesday #154

That's my point. This flawed election has now created a huge kerfuffle that will inevitably leave someone LauraInLA Tuesday #165

I agree. aintitfunny Tuesday #121

His marketing team should be fired. Festivito Tuesday #126

And Harris was a communist. Cuthbert Allgood Tuesday #134

Yep Faux pas Tuesday #135

K&R red dog 1 Tuesday #139

The party rules need to be complied with LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #141

Thank you for clearing this up Pompoy Yesterday #174

ANYBODY B.See Tuesday #146

david v goliath orchidlady Tuesday #147

Completely agree. We NEED the youth input. nt Exp Tuesday #149

He was pathetic in his appearance with Bill Maher Pompoy Tuesday #152

Well... gotta agree with you there. B.See Tuesday #158

Bravo! Yes to everything you said. He was very bad on an MSNBC segment Nixie Tuesday #168

Insanity... OC375 Tuesday #156

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #195

I agree wendyb-NC Tuesday #157

100% mahina Tuesday #160

But the DNC has specialized in "pretty big mistakes" for quite a few years, no ? Jack Valentino Tuesday #162

David Hogg doesn't need the DNC. The new Democratic party is going to be a grassroots effort. flashman13 Tuesday #164

I Agree proud patriot Tuesday #169

He may not be the right young leader. RandySF Yesterday #176

Malcolm Kenyatta is only 34. The re-vote for the 2nd seat will be between Kenyatta and Hogg. nt SunSeeker Yesterday #181

Again, the money is trying to take control. Don't let them. Mr.WeRP Yesterday #185

Do you think Kalyn Free and Malcom Kenyatta are for billionaires? SunSeeker 21 hrs ago #199

I agree, but he can't fight other Democrats oldmanlynn Yesterday #188

Can the Democratic Party walk and chew gum at the same time? lonely bird Yesterday #191

Malcolm Kenyatta is on MSNBC now saying Hogg needs to stop Nixie 19 hrs ago #201