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AloeVera

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59. Anti-semitism IS up due to the genocide (at least according to the IRHA definition used by ADL).
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:08 PM
5 hrs ago

And saying that does not "admit" to anti-semitism. That accusation was uncalled for and does not stand up to scrutiny.

It is up because:

1) even legitimate and well-earned criticism and outcry over Israel's inhumane actions are defined as "anti-semitic". Speaking up for Palestinian rights and equality is often considered anti-semitic. With the Gaza "war" there is plenty new to criticize, and plenty more injustices against Palestinians - so plenty more false accusations of "anti-semitism".

2) Real anti-semitism from the intolerant far-right has been given more fuel by Israel's actions. And this is possible because Jewish identity itself has been conflated with Israel. An inevitable outcome of the creation of an ethno-religious state. The Nick Fuentes of the world are having a field day. This is another unintended but dangerous consequence of such conflation.

The IHRA definition is both dangerous for Jews and unfair and harmful to Palestinian rights. It is being used as we speak to hunt down student leaders and protesters, crack down on freedom of speech (but only for Palestinians) and stifle academic and public discourse when that is urgently needed to arrive at some modicum of a fair outcome for Palestinians. If you care at all about their rights, that is. If someone does not, then they will buy into the IRHA definition for its use in suppressing political speech and silencing Palestinian voices and their points of view.

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It's rife in our political system ck4829 Tuesday #1
You can also be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not be antisemitic. Eko Tuesday #2
Also true. Beastly Boy Tuesday #3
I dont see how it shows that. Eko Tuesday #4
Surely you are jesting! Beastly Boy Tuesday #7
I think you are missing the big picture. Eko Tuesday #9
I think you are missing the point. The pellucidly obvious one. Beastly Boy Tuesday #12
Huh. Eko Tuesday #16
No, this is what you are saying about what I am saying. Beastly Boy Tuesday #19
That is not what you said at all. Eko Tuesday #21
Oh goody, tell me more about what I said! Beastly Boy Tuesday #24
I did, it was pretty easy. Eko Tuesday #26
Here, Ill make it easier. Eko Tuesday #23
I will make it even simpler. Beastly Boy Tuesday #29
It doesnt. Eko Tuesday #30
They're up because of the genocide HereForTheParty Tuesday #5
Absolutely right, they count anti-Semitic signs and chants as anti-Semitic incidents, they don't make excuses for them. tritsofme Tuesday #6
What is interesting is that poster's failure to see what they actually admitted to. Behind the Aegis Tuesday #14
Anti-semitism IS up due to the genocide (at least according to the IRHA definition used by ADL). AloeVera 5 hrs ago #59
Anti-Semitism is up to due to anti-Semites. Behind the Aegis 4 hrs ago #60
Anti-Semitism is... AloeVera 4 hrs ago #61
Anti-Semitism doesn't need to be 'splained to a Jew. Behind the Aegis 50 min ago #62
Only antisemitic signs and chants. Beastly Boy Tuesday #8
Exactly. The ADL report is questionable. AloeVera 16 hrs ago #35
Not surprising that the extreme left Jewish Currents has an issue with the IHRA definition of antisemitism. Beastly Boy 12 hrs ago #42
Probably lumping in criticism of Israel as automatically antisemitic alarimer Tuesday #10
Probably not. Beastly Boy Tuesday #13
Agree Meowmee Tuesday #11
I don't really consider the ADL to be a credible source like I used to AZProgressive Tuesday #15
They have the numbers. You have suspicions. Beastly Boy Tuesday #17
Not sure about their ablilty to see antisemitism. Eko Tuesday #18
They've been doing it for over 100 years. Beastly Boy Tuesday #20
The exact amount of time it takes to see someone do a nazi salute and read the ADL said it was a awkward gesture. Eko Tuesday #22
A couple of seconds and a tweet vs over 100 years. Beastly Boy Tuesday #25
Do you think their judgement on that was correct? Eko Tuesday #27
People change. Eko Tuesday #28
They are doing exactly that. AloeVera 16 hrs ago #32
According to your opinionated extreme left source Beastly Boy 11 hrs ago #53
Further... AloeVera 16 hrs ago #34
In doing what? Accepting the most authoritative definitionof antisemitism? Beastly Boy 11 hrs ago #55
Anti-Israeli government is NOT anti-Semitic. Just ask some Israelis who live there. Jit423 Tuesday #31
Not approving of the actions and policies SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #33
It is not, and clearly, it did not figure into ADL report in any way. Beastly Boy 15 hrs ago #36
Having seen several interviews SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #37
Having seen the ADL report which is the subject of this thread, Beastly Boy 13 hrs ago #38
You're free to believe SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #40
Ditto. Regardless of the conclusive statistics included in the ADL report. Beastly Boy 12 hrs ago #41
Again SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #43
Again, my belief or yours has no bearing on the math in the ADL report. Beastly Boy 12 hrs ago #44
Whatever you say SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #45
I say it doesn't matter what I say. Beastly Boy 12 hrs ago #46
I'm just saying SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #47
Totally unrelated to this thread then, right? Beastly Boy 12 hrs ago #48
You don't need anyone's SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #50
I still appreciate it, especially as it has nothing to do with this thread. Beastly Boy 11 hrs ago #51
No need to appreciate anything SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #52
I understand this, but I can't help it. It's not every day that I am reminded, for no particular reason, Beastly Boy 11 hrs ago #54
Good SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #56
A lot of defending antisemitism in this thread Mountainguy 13 hrs ago #39
Disappointing but no longer surprising. DavidDvorkin 12 hrs ago #49
Don't worry- Trump will put an end to anti-semitism Redleg 7 hrs ago #57
I worry. Beastly Boy 6 hrs ago #58
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