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Bernardo de La Paz

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19. +1. Never ascribe malfeasance when incompetence is one of the top hypotheses. Without specific

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:50 AM

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Without specific evidence I remain vaguely suspicious but I think incompetence explains it best for the time being, and has been best for some time.

Specific evidence is NOT Official A says B and market declines C. Nor Official D says E and market rises F. Nor is it hot mike comments in the Oval Office about mogul G making 500 million and mogul H making 9 billion without specific reference to time periods and actual moves. He may have been referring to general business gains since his election -- neither we nor the media know. Further the numbers referred to are not credible for possible market plays by those moguls in recent weeks; way too large.

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The whole stock market crash and recovery was a ruse to make billions [View all] bif Apr 23 OP

Yes. But it's not over yet. The unintended consequences continue. Scrivener7 Apr 23 #1

I agree. Duncanpup Apr 23 #3

But, hey, pootin is thrilled with kraznov's initiatives SheltieLover Apr 23 #6

Yes pootie loves his cockholster Krasnov. Duncanpup Apr 23 #10

Trump has played his cards badly. NCDem47 Apr 23 #45

Staying out WVlaserguy Apr 23 #2

I can't cash out Old Crank Apr 23 #16

Marjorie Traitor Greede said it's all really super-legal like. Kid Berwyn Apr 23 #4

Not even legal-adjacent, Marge. dchill Apr 23 #15

Yes it seems quite obvious it was a huge lucrative scam. Irish_Dem Apr 23 #5

They have done this many times DENVERPOPS Apr 23 #26

When in power the GOP always backs up their limos to the US treasury. Irish_Dem Apr 23 #46

If you look at a graph DENVERPOPS Apr 23 #47

It is all by design. Irish_Dem Apr 23 #49

This time, DENVERPOPS Apr 23 #51

Musk and Trump probably have already done it. Irish_Dem Apr 23 #52

About a month ago DENVERPOPS Apr 23 #53

Yep. They helped themselves to plenty of souvenirs. Irish_Dem Apr 23 #54

The way I have it figured is that DENVERPOPS Apr 23 #55

Jebus God yes I have seen the gold shit storm in the Oval Office. Irish_Dem Apr 23 #57

Knowing Trump, DENVERPOPS Apr 23 #58

Yep velvet Elvis paintings right up his ally. Irish_Dem Apr 23 #59

That is not how Bitcoin works, it is literally impossible to 'commandeer the entire BitCoin and Crypto supply' Celerity Apr 23 #61

Thank you for the comprehensive DENVERPOPS Apr 23 #62

The US currently has around 147.3 million ounces of gold stored at Fort Knox in Kentucky. At the current price of $3,328 Celerity Apr 23 #63

Thx again Celerity DENVERPOPS Apr 23 #64

I have seen all sorts of claims on the internet over the years, but the way I look at it, the entire Knox supply's total Celerity Apr 23 #66

Sorry, I Can't Buy That ProfessorGAC Apr 23 #7

+1. Never ascribe malfeasance when incompetence is one of the top hypotheses. Without specific Bernardo de La Paz Apr 23 #19

thanks for interjecting a bit of solid reason stopdiggin Apr 23 #34

Thanks misanthrope Apr 23 #44

Let's see the post-DOGE jobs numbers & earnings reports. CrispyQ Apr 23 #32

Nice rose colored glasses you have on there bobalew Apr 23 #41

Prove It! ProfessorGAC Apr 23 #43

In my way of thinking it seemed DENVERPOPS Apr 23 #56

Did you notice DENVERPOPS Apr 23 #50

And since it is such a good scam Marthe48 Apr 23 #8

It's comical at this point wolfie001 Apr 23 #21

Trillions... Largest heist in human history. yourout Apr 23 #9

What recovery? Prairie Gates Apr 23 #11

I think we're only halfway back from the losses we suffered after the tariff fiasco Walleye Apr 23 #28

Yep!! At 10% the *CURRENT tariffs that are still in force are worse than Smoot Hawley uponit7771 Apr 23 #48

Absolutely GoodRaisin Apr 23 #12

I looked at the market Coolgoober Apr 23 #13

He's either an idiot or an evil genius - can't be both GreatGazoo Apr 23 #14

He's an idiot. Evidence is overwhelming for that explanation and absent for other explanations Bernardo de La Paz Apr 23 #20

It's circumstantial evidence but evidence all the same Ponietz Apr 23 #42

I think he's a total fucking idiot bif Apr 23 #25

he is neither, he is a con.... stillcool Apr 23 #30

This was a givin. William769 Apr 23 #17

Yes it is Warpy Apr 23 #18

Exactly right. "Pump and dump". It even has a name. FadedMullet Apr 23 #22

There's so much pumping and dumping it's nauseating Walleye Apr 23 #29

Traitor Iamscrewed Apr 23 #23

Agree republianmushroom Apr 23 #24

No. it wasn't. stopdiggin Apr 23 #27

The only thing he's done in since Jan. 20th stillcool Apr 23 #31

some of the things done, yes. stopdiggin Apr 23 #35

what's brilliant about it? stillcool Apr 23 #37

These more mellow statements are just spin to save Trump's ass. The inevitable tide of tariff recession is coming. Doodley Apr 23 #33

True it is but there is so much more to come. The markets try to react today based on what they think the twodogsbarking Apr 23 #36

There's been little recovery. spanone Apr 23 #38

Yeah, this whole cycle is hardly over Johonny Apr 23 #65

pity the suckers who sold off last week or the week before. WarGamer Apr 23 #39

Congressional oversight should launch a major probe into INSIDER TRADING Martin Eden Apr 23 #40

Yup republianmushroom Apr 23 #60

Think of the current stock market as a craps game. Old Crank Apr 24 #67

I'm inclined to agree... I hope if we ever get rid of them they are charged with insider trading etc. Meowmee Apr 24 #68