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elocs

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26. If I had to pick between the 2 of them, I'd say Obama.

Tue Apr 22, 2025, 08:42 PM

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I think the Democratic party screwed up in not having Biden, a sitting vice president of 8 years, run after Obama because I believe he would have beaten Trump and changed history.
I believe that Biden would have beaten Trump again in 2020.

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Gavin Newsom says Democrats need to stop looking for a savior on a 'white horse' [View all] Jilly_in_VA Tuesday OP

Sounding this desperate three years before the primaries is not a good sign for Newsom. Nt Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #1

A liberal from california has no chance Henry203 Tuesday #2

They said the same with a conservative from California. Xolodno Tuesday #12

A liberal from a conservative state Henry203 Tuesday #14

And we are not in the primaries yet either. Xolodno Tuesday #18

That's not on us. That's on Newsom. He decided to start campaigning 3 years early while Rome burns. nt Blasphemer Tuesday #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Tuesday #50

I miss Jerry Brown. LuvLoogie Tuesday #3

You and me both!! InAbLuEsTaTe Tuesday #28

Great guy whose career and prez ambitions were sunk by a witty columnist from Chicago... Hekate 18 hrs ago #90

I don't think so n/t Jilly_in_VA 2 hrs ago #100

Nonsense. MAGA is all a cult of personality newdeal2 Tuesday #4

Exactly. Plus, Dems have done very well with charismatic presidents (JFK, Clinton, Obama). Blasphemer Tuesday #42

He's attractive, but his negativity is getting tedious. nt allegorical oracle Tuesday #44

Yeah, it seems like a really odd slant to take... regnaD kciN Yesterday #65

Sure, a "savior on a white horse" isn't what Dems should look for, maxsolomon Tuesday #5

He is doing terrible in the early primary polls AZProgressive Tuesday #25

its 3 years before the primaries maxsolomon Yesterday #82

They don't care, and besides something wrong about her will be articulated as soon as she announces Hekate 18 hrs ago #91

That would be Pete Buttigieg, NOT Newsom. nt Blasphemer Tuesday #43

Opinions vary. maxsolomon Yesterday #83

He has the charisma of a dried up booger synni Yesterday #64

I wish he;d just shut up. choie Tuesday #6

Yes, Newsom may just talk himself out of the nomination. He needs to think before he speaks. n/t elocs Tuesday #33

He sure isn't it. He's shown his stripes. Blue Full Moon Tuesday #7

I somewhat agree with him. everyonematters Tuesday #8

ours is GET RID OF FASCISM Skittles Yesterday #56

Democrats make up only 30% of the electorate. You have to convince the 40% who are not everyonematters Yesterday #70

you Skittles 21 hrs ago #88

Yes I mean the Democrats. everyonematters 17 hrs ago #92

What will Dems run on in 2028? Drain the swamp? Fire every MAGA in sight? bucolic_frolic Tuesday #9

I'm Not.. I'm a Dem. I'm Grateful for the All the Cha Tuesday #10

It doesn't need to be a white horse, but the candidate should be intelligent, empathetic, elocs Tuesday #11

You mean like Barack Obama or Joe Biden? Hekate Tuesday #22

If I had to pick between the 2 of them, I'd say Obama. elocs Tuesday #26

Well, the party did not screw up. Joe's son died horribly of a brain tumor & Joe was gutted.... Hekate Tuesday #32

Lincoln's 11 year old son died when he was in office and I'm sure he was gutted as well. elocs Tuesday #48

Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris both lost by one percentage point and Biden won by less than 1%. betsuni Yesterday #55

Having 0 rallies in WI is in no way the same as having a few more rallies for White People. elocs Yesterday #69

40 million Californians are taken for granted and somehow we manage to survive our hurt feelings Hekate Yesterday #75

Right! I'm from Washington State and wouldn't know a presidential rally if it bit me on the ass. betsuni 19 hrs ago #89

When the sweet showers of April have pierced betsuni 12 hrs ago #94

Too bad that because a kacekwl 1 hr ago #104

I'm terribly sorry Joe Biden was not superhuman enough for you Hekate Yesterday #76

Sitting VPs do not win. They have to build their own agenda and distancing themselves from the question everything Tuesday #51

It's much longer than that actually. MichMan 2 hrs ago #102

I'll be banned if I respond malaise Tuesday #13

Same orangecrush Yesterday #58

Oh? What color is your horse, Mr. Newsom? 0rganism Tuesday #15

It wasn't racist BlueSpot Tuesday #37

Interesting. I never said it was racist. 0rganism Yesterday #62

Apologies if I misunderstood BlueSpot Yesterday #81

This discussion belongs to the primaries forum, which isn't up yet as its still too early. Xolodno Tuesday #16

Thanks Hekate Tuesday #19

Sorry, DUers, but waiting for the perfect savior & rejecting all others is chronic around here Hekate Tuesday #17

Might as well vote for someone that will make an attempt at universal health care AZProgressive Tuesday #27

For 8 years I hung out in the Obama Group because the hatred and mockery were unbearable Hekate Tuesday #34

I would rather have Obama AZProgressive Tuesday #38

Yet another Newsom hate thread? JoseBalow Tuesday #20

Well, to quote a long deceased celebrity... Xolodno Tuesday #23

That's my sig, but it is Will Rogers. But I watched Roy a lot as a kid. n/t elocs Tuesday #29

Brain fart. Xolodno Tuesday #35

Been there, done that, more than once. Roy Rodgers comes to mind easier because elocs Tuesday #46

It was Will Rogers dwayneb Tuesday #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Tuesday #36

Emotion over thinking. betsuni Yesterday #68

I just want a suitable human equipped with a vertebral column. Maru Kitteh Tuesday #21

I think a lot of the replies here boil down to shooting the messenger. NT. anamnua Tuesday #24

'Kay, Gav. 'Kay. I'll take your words under advisement. dchill Tuesday #31

If Gov. Gavin Newsom is our nominee William769 Tuesday #39

No you won't. maxsolomon 23 hrs ago #84

The Presidential System in our political structure is a problem in itself. thought crime Tuesday #40

Then he should start a movement instead of starting primary season 3 years early. He doesn't care about Americans... Blasphemer Tuesday #45

Well, I'm certainly not looking at him as he parties AllyCat Tuesday #47

By 2028, after Trump has left the country in smoldering ruins, people probably won't be looking for a savior. LudwigPastorius Tuesday #49

Oh this is Brer Rabbit adjacent ... LSparkle Tuesday #52

I have already ruled him out and would not vote for him in a primary Meowmee Yesterday #53

And yet, Newsome is sounding like he wants to be the savior on the white horse. lees1975 Yesterday #54

I agree Skittles Yesterday #61

Newsom is correct aeromanKC Yesterday #57

he really thinks he can win support from the young male bigot Trump worshipers Skittles Yesterday #59

My TikTok feed back during the convention was lit up with lots Nixie Yesterday #60

Thank you. He is correct. betsuni Yesterday #66

We have fascists and Christian Nationalists running our government. SamKnause Yesterday #63

Don't ride the white horse....... Celerity Yesterday #67

Who said anyone is looking for a white horse? Patton French Yesterday #71

Yeah funny 😹 Meowmee 6 hrs ago #97

Sorry, I don't think I meant that in the way you interpreted it. Patton French 6 hrs ago #98

Perhaps I misunderstood 😁 Meowmee 6 hrs ago #99

We need strong candidates both at the local AND national levels. DFW Yesterday #72

It's true that many on the left have to fall in love with their candidate but ecstatic Yesterday #73

Please keep shooting your mouth off in public, Newsom. Paladin Yesterday #74

I wish people would stop characterizing Democrats looking for coordination of our efforts as Scrivener7 Yesterday #77

I think we are just looking for the people we hired in government to do their jobs. travelingthrulife Yesterday #78

I think he is right. Waiting for a savior isn't a good strategy. Many Democratic lawmakers are doing a great job of Doodley Yesterday #79

He made a different comment that bothered me more than this one. Quiet Em Yesterday #80

What the hell happened to him? Sky Jewels 22 hrs ago #85

I've taken him off my 2028 list. Vinca 21 hrs ago #86

So few actual quotes MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #87

Same as Bernie Sanders said, has to be "A party which makes decisions from the bottom on up" and betsuni 12 hrs ago #93

I don't find anything wrong here RJ-MacReady 8 hrs ago #95

He's not completely wrong SocialDemocrat61 7 hrs ago #96

Everyone seeming to turn on Newsom is nuts. Basso8vb 2 hrs ago #101

It's certainly not kacekwl 1 hr ago #103