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Xolodno

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16. This discussion belongs to the primaries forum, which isn't up yet as its still too early.

Tue Apr 22, 2025, 08:09 PM

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Nor will I visit that forum. It's all too often toxic, full of unsubstantiated inuendo, lies, damn lies, statistics and enough bullshit to fertilize the planet and Mars.

The fact some are already doing the mud slinging is quite telling. Very telling. It's not like he isn't wrong, votes matter and to get them you have to get to people on the ground. Walking around like your ass doesn't stink may work for the GOP, but it won't work for us. To pull the rug from under them, you have to stoop down to grab the rug and pull it.

I don't see this as constructive, just more bickering for the sake of bickering. This type of discussion helps no one and only disenfranchise people. I'm not going to vote based on some few comments people don't like. I'm voting for the best person for the job and if happens to be Newsom, so be it. He's definitely better than what the GOP has to offer. Let's stop sabotaging ourselves.

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Gavin Newsom says Democrats need to stop looking for a savior on a 'white horse' [View all] Jilly_in_VA Tuesday OP

Sounding this desperate three years before the primaries is not a good sign for Newsom. Nt Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #1

A liberal from california has no chance Henry203 Tuesday #2

They said the same with a conservative from California. Xolodno Tuesday #12

A liberal from a conservative state Henry203 Tuesday #14

And we are not in the primaries yet either. Xolodno Tuesday #18

That's not on us. That's on Newsom. He decided to start campaigning 3 years early while Rome burns. nt Blasphemer Tuesday #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Tuesday #50

I miss Jerry Brown. LuvLoogie Tuesday #3

You and me both!! InAbLuEsTaTe Tuesday #28

Great guy whose career and prez ambitions were sunk by a witty columnist from Chicago... Hekate 18 hrs ago #90

I don't think so n/t Jilly_in_VA 2 hrs ago #100

Nonsense. MAGA is all a cult of personality newdeal2 Tuesday #4

Exactly. Plus, Dems have done very well with charismatic presidents (JFK, Clinton, Obama). Blasphemer Tuesday #42

He's attractive, but his negativity is getting tedious. nt allegorical oracle Tuesday #44

Yeah, it seems like a really odd slant to take... regnaD kciN Yesterday #65

Sure, a "savior on a white horse" isn't what Dems should look for, maxsolomon Tuesday #5

He is doing terrible in the early primary polls AZProgressive Tuesday #25

its 3 years before the primaries maxsolomon Yesterday #82

They don't care, and besides something wrong about her will be articulated as soon as she announces Hekate 18 hrs ago #91

That would be Pete Buttigieg, NOT Newsom. nt Blasphemer Tuesday #43

Opinions vary. maxsolomon Yesterday #83

He has the charisma of a dried up booger synni Yesterday #64

I wish he;d just shut up. choie Tuesday #6

Yes, Newsom may just talk himself out of the nomination. He needs to think before he speaks. n/t elocs Tuesday #33

He sure isn't it. He's shown his stripes. Blue Full Moon Tuesday #7

I somewhat agree with him. everyonematters Tuesday #8

ours is GET RID OF FASCISM Skittles Yesterday #56

Democrats make up only 30% of the electorate. You have to convince the 40% who are not everyonematters Yesterday #70

you Skittles 20 hrs ago #88

Yes I mean the Democrats. everyonematters 17 hrs ago #92

What will Dems run on in 2028? Drain the swamp? Fire every MAGA in sight? bucolic_frolic Tuesday #9

I'm Not.. I'm a Dem. I'm Grateful for the All the Cha Tuesday #10

It doesn't need to be a white horse, but the candidate should be intelligent, empathetic, elocs Tuesday #11

You mean like Barack Obama or Joe Biden? Hekate Tuesday #22

If I had to pick between the 2 of them, I'd say Obama. elocs Tuesday #26

Well, the party did not screw up. Joe's son died horribly of a brain tumor & Joe was gutted.... Hekate Tuesday #32

Lincoln's 11 year old son died when he was in office and I'm sure he was gutted as well. elocs Tuesday #48

Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris both lost by one percentage point and Biden won by less than 1%. betsuni Yesterday #55

Having 0 rallies in WI is in no way the same as having a few more rallies for White People. elocs Yesterday #69

40 million Californians are taken for granted and somehow we manage to survive our hurt feelings Hekate Yesterday #75

Right! I'm from Washington State and wouldn't know a presidential rally if it bit me on the ass. betsuni 19 hrs ago #89

When the sweet showers of April have pierced betsuni 12 hrs ago #94

Too bad that because a kacekwl 1 hr ago #104

I'm terribly sorry Joe Biden was not superhuman enough for you Hekate Yesterday #76

Sitting VPs do not win. They have to build their own agenda and distancing themselves from the question everything Tuesday #51

It's much longer than that actually. MichMan 2 hrs ago #102

I'll be banned if I respond malaise Tuesday #13

Same orangecrush Yesterday #58

Oh? What color is your horse, Mr. Newsom? 0rganism Tuesday #15

It wasn't racist BlueSpot Tuesday #37

Interesting. I never said it was racist. 0rganism Yesterday #62

Apologies if I misunderstood BlueSpot Yesterday #81

This discussion belongs to the primaries forum, which isn't up yet as its still too early. Xolodno Tuesday #16

Thanks Hekate Tuesday #19

Sorry, DUers, but waiting for the perfect savior & rejecting all others is chronic around here Hekate Tuesday #17

Might as well vote for someone that will make an attempt at universal health care AZProgressive Tuesday #27

For 8 years I hung out in the Obama Group because the hatred and mockery were unbearable Hekate Tuesday #34

I would rather have Obama AZProgressive Tuesday #38

Yet another Newsom hate thread? JoseBalow Tuesday #20

Well, to quote a long deceased celebrity... Xolodno Tuesday #23

That's my sig, but it is Will Rogers. But I watched Roy a lot as a kid. n/t elocs Tuesday #29

Brain fart. Xolodno Tuesday #35

Been there, done that, more than once. Roy Rodgers comes to mind easier because elocs Tuesday #46

It was Will Rogers dwayneb Tuesday #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Tuesday #36

Emotion over thinking. betsuni Yesterday #68

I just want a suitable human equipped with a vertebral column. Maru Kitteh Tuesday #21

I think a lot of the replies here boil down to shooting the messenger. NT. anamnua Tuesday #24

'Kay, Gav. 'Kay. I'll take your words under advisement. dchill Tuesday #31

If Gov. Gavin Newsom is our nominee William769 Tuesday #39

No you won't. maxsolomon 23 hrs ago #84

The Presidential System in our political structure is a problem in itself. thought crime Tuesday #40

Then he should start a movement instead of starting primary season 3 years early. He doesn't care about Americans... Blasphemer Tuesday #45

Well, I'm certainly not looking at him as he parties AllyCat Tuesday #47

By 2028, after Trump has left the country in smoldering ruins, people probably won't be looking for a savior. LudwigPastorius Tuesday #49

Oh this is Brer Rabbit adjacent ... LSparkle Tuesday #52

I have already ruled him out and would not vote for him in a primary Meowmee Yesterday #53

And yet, Newsome is sounding like he wants to be the savior on the white horse. lees1975 Yesterday #54

I agree Skittles Yesterday #61

Newsom is correct aeromanKC Yesterday #57

he really thinks he can win support from the young male bigot Trump worshipers Skittles Yesterday #59

My TikTok feed back during the convention was lit up with lots Nixie Yesterday #60

Thank you. He is correct. betsuni Yesterday #66

We have fascists and Christian Nationalists running our government. SamKnause Yesterday #63

Don't ride the white horse....... Celerity Yesterday #67

Who said anyone is looking for a white horse? Patton French Yesterday #71

Yeah funny 😹 Meowmee 6 hrs ago #97

Sorry, I don't think I meant that in the way you interpreted it. Patton French 6 hrs ago #98

Perhaps I misunderstood 😁 Meowmee 6 hrs ago #99

We need strong candidates both at the local AND national levels. DFW Yesterday #72

It's true that many on the left have to fall in love with their candidate but ecstatic Yesterday #73

Please keep shooting your mouth off in public, Newsom. Paladin Yesterday #74

I wish people would stop characterizing Democrats looking for coordination of our efforts as Scrivener7 Yesterday #77

I think we are just looking for the people we hired in government to do their jobs. travelingthrulife Yesterday #78

I think he is right. Waiting for a savior isn't a good strategy. Many Democratic lawmakers are doing a great job of Doodley Yesterday #79

He made a different comment that bothered me more than this one. Quiet Em Yesterday #80

What the hell happened to him? Sky Jewels 22 hrs ago #85

I've taken him off my 2028 list. Vinca 21 hrs ago #86

So few actual quotes MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #87

Same as Bernie Sanders said, has to be "A party which makes decisions from the bottom on up" and betsuni 12 hrs ago #93

I don't find anything wrong here RJ-MacReady 8 hrs ago #95

He's not completely wrong SocialDemocrat61 6 hrs ago #96

Everyone seeming to turn on Newsom is nuts. Basso8vb 2 hrs ago #101

It's certainly not kacekwl 1 hr ago #103