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DFW

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21. When you enter the USA as a tourist, you are supposed to give your first address of stay prior to arrival
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:17 PM
Apr 21

Without that, they shouldn't have been given boarding passes by whatever airline they flew in on. Even I have to do that as a legal resident of Germany. It's a little over the top, I find, but that is what is on form asked of all passengers who list another county of residence, even US citizens. If I don't do it, I don't get the boarding pass. It's completely stupid. I could give the address of a local Starbucks, and the form would be accepted.

That having been said, if they can establish the financial wherewithal to stay five weeks in Hawai'i, then the CBP staff should have let them in. It's not like two teenage girls from Germany constitute a clear and present danger. Detaining them for days in a detention facility is by far the greater offense than their oversight when filling out the online form, which the airline should have reminded them of prior to even issuing a boarding pass in the first place. It is reasonable to conclude that terrorists were indeed present at their arrival, but they were not civilian German teenagers. Rather, they were the ones wearing U.S. CBP uniforms.

When this makes national headlines in Germany (give it about 8 minutes for the internet, another four hours for the TV news), the number of western Europeans still willing to book summer trips to the USA this summer should drop by another hundred thousand. There go a few million more in sales tax, hotel occupancy tax, and payroll taxes on salaries for service jobs. Republicans and the economy, again.

It's so good to know that the Republicans are looking out for our economy. That is, if watching it slip beneath the surface of the quicksand can be interpreted to be "looking out for our economy." Before posting, I will take a brief look. If there is anything yet in the German online news.

OK, THAT took all of ten seconds!

Zwei deutsche Teenager-Mädchen nach Hawaii-Einreise inhaftiert und deportiert
US-Einreise wird zum Albtraum: Zwei junge Deutsche landen statt am Strand im Gefängnis. Ihr Fall zeigt die verschärften Einreisekontrollen unter der Trump-Regierung und führt zu angepassten Reisewarnungen für die USA.

Two German teenage girls arrested and deported after entering Hawai'i.
US-trip became a nightmare: two young Germans, instead of landing on the beach, landed in jail. Their case demonstrates the stricter immigration controls under the Trump administration, and leads to appropriate travel warnings for the USA.

I know people who have traveled by camping or renting camper vans IronLionZion Apr 21 #1
I had friends who stayed in hostels when they traveled. CaptainTruth Apr 21 #90
ICE quotas freezing out the world. cbabe Apr 21 #2
Young people use Uber and Air BNB as they travel. Irish_Dem Apr 21 #3
We locked up two 18 year old girls? yardwork Apr 21 #4
Locked them up and STRIP SEARCHED them. I hope they sue. I hate it here. OMGWTF Apr 21 #44
It's part of tRump's "No Stinking Tourists!" campaign. All part of America Alone! policy. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 21 #62
I've never felt such hatred as I do for these monsters. yardwork Apr 21 #91
Perverts and sex abusers. USA USA USA!!! JanMichael Apr 22 #105
Well, Tourism Industry: Those are two more potential clients you need not worry about ever LoisB Apr 21 #5
Plus everyone who read this story will think twice. Tons of young allegorical oracle Apr 21 #20
Big Brother is now stalking the USA looking for people to harass & TRAFFICK. Especially young female people? Attilatheblond Apr 21 #64
Ding ding malaise Apr 21 #78
Our tourist industry is going to suffer a whole lot!! riversedge Apr 21 #6
Most likely US citizens who have taken markodochartaigh Apr 21 #11
Terrorism (Domestically) ZDU Apr 21 #7
No hostels in Hawaii? Emile Apr 21 #8
There are definitely hostels in each major island of Hawaii. And great places to camp. SunSeeker Apr 21 #29
Can get a decent one for about $50 FHRRK Apr 22 #99
GOP ignoring the loss of freedom in america. Shame on them. lindysalsagal Apr 21 #9
Were they not Aryan enough or have tattoos on their fingers? Ping Tung Apr 21 #10
. dalton99a Apr 21 #12
Hardened killers both of them IronLionZion Apr 21 #15
Just wait for the doctored photos with tattoos. nt Grokenstein Apr 21 #35
I don't see any tattoos on these girls. How did ICE know they were gang members? FakeNoose Apr 21 #36
You can see the murderous gleam in their eyes IronLionZion Apr 21 #50
Yup, Codifer Apr 21 #66
Probably spoke better English than their captors. LiberalArkie Apr 21 #57
The U.S sure dodged a bullet with these two dangerous terrorists.. Dave Bowman Apr 21 #60
Oh my gawd! Don't scare me like that! Iggo Apr 21 #67
Trump has proved himself as incompetent in hotel ownership as he is in everything else. Aristus Apr 21 #13
Not talking about the specifics of this case newdeal2 Apr 21 #14
In Australia... ProfessorGAC Apr 21 #68
Don't try to enter the UK COL Mustard Apr 21 #93
Yup. You can expect to be questioned in most countries when you enter. MineralMan Apr 22 #123
Yes. That is true in many places. MineralMan Apr 22 #122
Powerfully done. Kid Berwyn Apr 21 #16
There goes backpack traveling to see the world. Well, in the United States anyway. Solly Mack Apr 21 #17
I'm sure that will play a lot in Germany. College kids from Germany won't be coming here this summer. patphil Apr 21 #18
That's how I travelled when moonscape Apr 21 #58
In their christo-fascist nightmare young women don't travel - TBF Apr 22 #112
This orangecrush Apr 22 #126
When we go to Ireland, we don't always book ahead Maeve Apr 21 #19
Oh we are so FREEEEEE nt lostnfound Apr 21 #94
When you enter the USA as a tourist, you are supposed to give your first address of stay prior to arrival DFW Apr 21 #21
I would book at least the first couple nights before arrival IronLionZion Apr 21 #22
You don't even need to do that. DFW Apr 21 #24
If they don't need proof, I could just say the name of some popular chain that every city has IronLionZion Apr 21 #27
Exactly. DFW Apr 21 #32
Well, Sunlight Apr 21 #37
Inexperienced or not, the airline definitely knows IronLionZion Apr 21 #42
Every country I've traveled to requires the address I'm staying at within the country. Ms. Toad Apr 21 #23
That is correct. DFW Apr 21 #30
This article doesn't tell the whole story either. Ace Rothstein Apr 21 #38
That would be a game changer for sure. DFW Apr 21 #71
Depends on where I'm traveling to. Ms. Toad Apr 21 #40
Never for me. My family went to England and Japan in the last two years. still-prayin4rain Apr 22 #104
I'll bet your immigration and customs forms asked for the local address, Ms. Toad Apr 22 #115
WHAT? When did that happen? I NEVER HAD lodging set. For over a dozen countries. Festivito Apr 22 #111
I dont' know when it happened Ms. Toad Apr 22 #114
We're not talking about immigration here. A few weeklong visit. Festivito Apr 22 #117
The form you fill out for a visit, in most countries, is usually called an immigration and customs form. Ms. Toad Apr 22 #120
We're sorry, we can't find the page... D-uh-OGE! Festivito Apr 22 #125
Here. Try this. Ms. Toad Apr 22 #127
Thank you. Guess I'd need to buy the new "Lonely Planet" guide. Festivito Apr 24 #128
Likely winging it and planed to stay in hostels IbogaProject Apr 21 #25
They probably were going to camp or stay at youth hostels, like I did when I explored Europe when I was young. SunSeeker Apr 21 #26
"They're rapists. And, i assume, some ars good people."? czarjak Apr 21 #28
Kraznov is working hard to alienate former allies to please pootin SheltieLover Apr 21 #31
republicon facism is killing America's tourism industry BoRaGard Apr 21 #33
Here are the two "terrrrists" that were stopped before carrying out their sunny sabotage at Waikiki DFW Apr 21 #34
I flew to Thailand Several times in my life as well as Bev54 Apr 21 #39
I watch a lot of british tv shows cksmithy Apr 21 #41
I guess we can't do that in the US now with hardened borders. IronLionZion Apr 21 #46
Kind of sad that Thailand is safer to visit than the US... Wounded Bear Apr 21 #43
I visited Thailand in January IronLionZion Apr 21 #48
That's ridiculous. So much for spontaneity. Vinca Apr 21 #45
Maybe these stories shouldn't come as a surprise, but somehow, I'm always surprised by them. ShazzieB Apr 21 #47
That's why I share it IronLionZion Apr 21 #49
Who exactly is the US tourism industry"? bif Apr 21 #51
US Travel Association is the main lobbying group IronLionZion Apr 21 #54
My message to Krasnov TSF: Mr. Evil Apr 21 #52
Good description. love_katz Apr 21 #85
Absolutely! Mr. Evil Apr 21 #92
I took a year off college and hitchhiked around Europe bif Apr 21 #53
My gap year JustAnotherGen Apr 21 #55
Shameful Tourism Killer GentryDixon Apr 21 #56
Rammstein - Amerika (Official Video) IronLionZion Apr 21 #59
When I travelled when I was younger, I would book one night for a hotel on arrival and no others Bernardo de La Paz Apr 21 #61
Yup and when visiting a country for the first time, I would discover new stuff I want to see IronLionZion Apr 21 #74
Snapshot of travel industry protesting, showing poor forecasts for 2025 Lulu KC Apr 21 #63
In case you see the gov't's claim that the teenagers admitted they planned to work in Hawaii Sunlight Apr 21 #65
What will happen to... 2naSalit Apr 21 #69
Especially when the world cup is hosted in 16 different cities IronLionZion Apr 21 #73
Truly... 2naSalit Apr 21 #84
I've been wondering about that, too. tanyev Apr 21 #77
2 young girls in bikinis... lame54 Apr 21 #70
eek! hawaii invaded by foreign tourist girl threat! help! help! struggle4progress Apr 21 #72
It's always been like this SARose Apr 21 #75
Yep..... Australia & New Zealand require you to tell them where you'll be staying..... it's pretty common. groundloop Apr 21 #76
It's been years for me but I never had accommodations JanMichael Apr 22 #108
Interesting SARose Apr 22 #113
It's all coming to: "May I see your papers, please?" SupportSanity Apr 21 #79
Papers won't help you IronLionZion Apr 21 #81
Even worse. SupportSanity Apr 21 #82
CBP is completely immune and unaccountable with 100% power at the border with no oversight or apply AZLD4Candidate Apr 21 #80
MAGA need to get with the times North Coast Lawyer Apr 21 #83
Insane. nt Exp Apr 21 #86
Insanity rules in the USA Meowmee Apr 21 #87
Next Iamscrewed Apr 21 #88
Oh I assure you they are always thinking of newer and dumber ways. nt IronLionZion Apr 21 #95
WHO would want to come here at this point? BigDemVoter Apr 21 #89
I'm expecting company from another country Marthe48 Apr 21 #96
glad they made it out alive. Seriously ecstatic Apr 21 #97
Two white girls unfairly strip searched? This will leave the MAGATs twisting in knots. nt Blasphemer Apr 21 #98
I've winged its dozens of time going w/o a hotel until I arrived here in the US Historic NY Apr 22 #100
Strip searched is essentially raped Old Crank Apr 22 #101
THATS why? oy vey. the stupid. stay home earth til the rat basturd is gone in 2029. pansypoo53219 Apr 22 #102
"Your Papers Please!" augyboston Apr 22 #103
You beat me to it. Shit it's early. Prairie_Seagull Apr 22 #107
How the fuck is this anyones business. Prairie_Seagull Apr 22 #106
Add USA to list of countries that are dangerous for young women to visit IronLionZion Apr 22 #109
When I was younger we never booked hotels in advance It opened up a lot of wonderful adventures. travelingthrulife Apr 22 #110
The US is bdamomma Apr 22 #116
Another indicator of America's restored Greatness? Will there be parades, marching bands, celebrating Ping Tung Apr 22 #118
Cheeto wants a big authoritarian style military parade IronLionZion Apr 22 #121
The 2026 World Cup and 2028 Olympics are going to be a disaster Bleacher Creature Apr 22 #119
This stunt will further kill any tourism LetMyPeopleVote Apr 22 #124
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