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The Magistrate

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25. There Are Things Some People Just Do Not Like To Admit, Sir
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 08:45 AM
Apr 2020

Expressions support for Sanders are often made simply as a marker of political orientation. Expressing support for Sanders says 'I'm not a moderate, I'm well to the left of most people', and as with most such things, serves to identify a 'cool' group separate from the general run of 'squares'. People doing this do not even particularly want to prevail, in the sense of being in the majority. It is axiomatic that a majority can never be 'cool', the feeling of being 'hip' and part of an 'in-crowd' depends on being outnumbered by the host of the unwashed and unenlightened. The point is not to achieve any political goal, to secure any discrete reform, it is simply to be sure one is perceived as a particular, and special, kind of person.

People who have an actual interest in achieving the goals widespread among Democrats, the goals of all left and progressive and liberal persons in general, recognize readily Sanders is far too flawed as a politician, and as a personality, to make any progress towards their goals. They know Sanders has not achieved any measurable advance towards them in his long Congressional career. They know Sanders' claim to hold patents and copyrights on these goals is nonesense, because they know their own desires pre-date Sanders, and exist in their hearts and minds without the slightest reference to him or influence by him.

What would be a helpful contribution would be for well-meaning supporters of Sen. Sanders to make clear the partisans of the faction that are unwilling to support the Democratic nominee are flat wrong, and seek by their own actions to demonstrate how wrong they are. Rather than to claim that when this faction of 'Bernie' devotees are attacked for what they are, nihilist wreckers whose actions assist the cheap thug Trump, they themselves are the people who are being attacked. It is rather like a main-line Protestant minister complaining that when the likes of Falwell Jr. or Rick Wiles is attacked for their pernicious statements and actions, it is Christianity, and all Christians, who are being attacked. If you are not claiming Mr. Biden is a senile racist rapist who killed millions in Iraq, whom you could under no circumstances vote for, no one is attacking you. I certainly am not, and would not. You would probably find I agreed with you on many points of policy, and certainly on most goals to be sought.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Given His Position, Sir, That Is An Official Sanders Statement The Magistrate Apr 2020 #1
He needs to the them to the vet denem Apr 2020 #5
lol a trillion for bernie's pet F 35 jets made/stationed in ... vermont nt msongs Apr 2020 #2
matt haz a sad.. he lost and he's not gonna Cha Apr 2020 #3
Is this asshole stll part of the Sanders campaign? Wasnt he fired last year? still_one Apr 2020 #4
He was fired but still works for the campaign (probably as a "contractor). Jane loves him. George II Apr 2020 #6
That is unacceptable still_one Apr 2020 #10
Matt should get a bottle of cheap booze DenverJared Apr 2020 #7
If you watch any of his recent videos, it looks like he's doing in from his mother's basement.... George II Apr 2020 #8
His mother has probably been dead and ossified a few years ago DenverJared Apr 2020 #9
Then: "Vote blue, no matter who!" Now: Grokenstein Apr 2020 #11
I don't expect it to let up much. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #12
This crazy shit actually helps Biden GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #13
He needs new material. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #14
This Helps Joe Biden DarthDem Apr 2020 #15
This is part of the problem. Don1 Apr 2020 #16
This Is All Very Well, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #17
That works in an echo chamber. Don1 Apr 2020 #19
Those It Is Aimed At, Sir, Cannot Be Convinced The Magistrate Apr 2020 #20
Yes, it's "they". Like it or not he and Gray and Sirota SPEAK FOR THE CAMPAIGN, "THEY"! George II Apr 2020 #24
There Are Things Some People Just Do Not Like To Admit, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #25
Bernie speaks for the campaign and so do his staff who had him concede. Don1 Apr 2020 #34
This is indicative of his senior staff and prominent surrogates. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #30
bullshit Don1 Apr 2020 #33
We're not talking about who convinced him to concede, we're talking about toxicity STILL coming.... George II Apr 2020 #36
You are making hasty generalizations about groups of people. Don1 Apr 2020 #37
Are You Pretending Your Misdirections Are Helpful, Sir? The Magistrate Apr 2020 #38
Please just stop making hasty generalizations about Bernie supporters. Don1 Apr 2020 #39
I Do Apreciate A Good Laugh, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #40
It's not"some guy Matt", its a guy hired by the Sanders campaign, then fired, then... George II Apr 2020 #23
He was fired after a day. Don1 Apr 2020 #35
Excellent post. Laelth Apr 2020 #28
Most Bernie supporters weren't hired by the Campaign and then fired a day later... SidDithers Apr 2020 #41
This is A senseless rant with no redeeming qualites--just fabricated falsehoods or mischaracterizati UncleNoel Apr 2020 #18
The campaign to make this general election the "lesser of two evils" begins in earnest. betsuni Apr 2020 #21
And Apparently Attacking Those Who Purvey Such Swill, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #22
Your revolution is over, Mr. Orfaleo. Loki Liesmith Apr 2020 #26
That is a really special kind of imbecile. Squinch Apr 2020 #27
I fear even looking at Twitter today mcar Apr 2020 #29
Why would anyone expect anything to change with the trolls comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #31
Someone please tell Matt Orfalea that his candidate lost. Sloumeau Apr 2020 #32
Yet another hit job from Sanders supporter Orfalea. Unity now!!!! George II Apr 2020 #42
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