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Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders didn't win any larger argument [View all]Gothmog
(165,652 posts)103. Bernie Sanders is out. And the insincere praise begins.
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Democrats, aided by the mainstream media, are now putting out two rather disingenuous storylines. First, No one ever changed the party as much as Sanders. Second, Now begins the struggle to win over the Bernie Bros. It is understandable that some Democrats eager to avoid a schism similar to that which occurred in 2016 are falling over themselves to assuage Sanderss ego, but lets not get carried away.
The Bernie changed the party line suggests that the party did not overwhelmingly choose a center-left successor to President Barack Obama. But it did! And it has rallied around someone who rejected Medicare-for-all, a wealth tax, left-wing isolationism and the entire capitalism is evil stance. Sanders got beaten badly week after week, never changing his message. That message simply did not register with more than about 30 percent of the party. Twitter does not represent the party. The party did not shift far left, as many in the media predicted (egged on by the loudest voices on the left). If anything, Bidens wins show that the heart of the party rests with moderate African Americans to whom all Americans are indebted for lifting a viable, electable nominee to oust President Trump. Sanderss movement is far smaller than he would have liked us to believe.
As for winning over his followers, consider a recent poll showing that about 15 percent of Sanderss supporters intend to vote for Trump if Biden is the nominee. It is hard to fathom the mindset of someone who would prefer an unfit narcissist who opposes virtually every principle and value Democrats hold dear to Obamas vice president. It is of a piece with those who preferred Jill Stein in 2016. There is no reaching such people. Soliciting them is a waste of time.
The rest of the Sanders coalition should not need much courting. Theyve already signaled they will line up behind Biden and have expressed their determination to oust Trump. Other than not gratuitously attacking them, no great effort should be required to keep them in the fold. (Ironically, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) has been far more successful in advancing progressive policy ideas with Biden, including her plans on student debt forgiveness and bankruptcy.)
The Bernie changed the party line suggests that the party did not overwhelmingly choose a center-left successor to President Barack Obama. But it did! And it has rallied around someone who rejected Medicare-for-all, a wealth tax, left-wing isolationism and the entire capitalism is evil stance. Sanders got beaten badly week after week, never changing his message. That message simply did not register with more than about 30 percent of the party. Twitter does not represent the party. The party did not shift far left, as many in the media predicted (egged on by the loudest voices on the left). If anything, Bidens wins show that the heart of the party rests with moderate African Americans to whom all Americans are indebted for lifting a viable, electable nominee to oust President Trump. Sanderss movement is far smaller than he would have liked us to believe.
As for winning over his followers, consider a recent poll showing that about 15 percent of Sanderss supporters intend to vote for Trump if Biden is the nominee. It is hard to fathom the mindset of someone who would prefer an unfit narcissist who opposes virtually every principle and value Democrats hold dear to Obamas vice president. It is of a piece with those who preferred Jill Stein in 2016. There is no reaching such people. Soliciting them is a waste of time.
The rest of the Sanders coalition should not need much courting. Theyve already signaled they will line up behind Biden and have expressed their determination to oust Trump. Other than not gratuitously attacking them, no great effort should be required to keep them in the fold. (Ironically, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) has been far more successful in advancing progressive policy ideas with Biden, including her plans on student debt forgiveness and bankruptcy.)

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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No he didn't! What are these "issues" that Sander won? The majority of Democrats AND....
George II
Mar 2020
#10
The kind that we can pass quickly...millions of people's lives depend on it...can't have some huge
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#15
We have the infrastructure of the ACA in place, along with REAL Medicare (not some faux "for all")
George II
Mar 2020
#16
Why do you think that he coudn't inspire them to register and get to a polling place on a Tuesday?
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#72
He won by cleaning up with older voters. Bernie and progressives are the future.
DanTex
Mar 2020
#20
If Sander got younger voters, he could have won...they didn't show up Dan...his base
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#23
If they didn't vote for him, you can't say that he won them. It's really that simple.
Orrex
Mar 2020
#35
Fight for Fifteen started in 2012 and has raised minimum wages around the country.
betsuni
Mar 2020
#50
LOL. Bernie has been driving the fight for $15. It has everything to do with Bernie.
DanTex
Mar 2020
#55
Again, you ignore the exit poll data, which is understandable because it totally contradicts
DanTex
Mar 2020
#57
It would take years to put every person in the country on Medicare...and the cost would be
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#24
"Sanders's vision for the party has been soundly and consistently rejected..."
NurseJackie
Mar 2020
#68
Every four years the party platform becomes more progressive. That's how time works.
betsuni
Mar 2020
#84
Why did Bernie Sanders drop out? The progressive majority he needed doesn't exist
Gothmog
Apr 2020
#106