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Gothmog

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19. The sanders supporters who voted for trump in 2016 are mainly racists who hated Obama
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 02:36 PM
Apr 2020

The facts are that 25% of sanders supporters helped to elect trump by either voting for trump, voting for a third party candidate like Stein (who like sanders was supported by Russia) or stayed home



This is based on the Cooperative Congressional Election survey https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social
That is according to the data from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study — a massive election survey of around 50,000 people. (For perspective, a run-of-the-mill survey measuring Trump's job approval right now has a sample of 800 to 1,500.)

It appears that the sanders supporters who voted for trump where (I) not really Democrats, (ii) did not like President Obama and (iiii) were racists



Party seems to have had something to do with it — Sanders-Trump voters were much less likely than Sanders-Clinton or Sanders-third party voters to have been Democrats. Likewise, approval of President Barack Obama appears to be related — Sanders-Trump voters approved of Obama much less than other Sanders primary voters.


And then there is race. Nearly half of Sanders-Trump voters disagree with the idea that "white people have advantages."


This tracks with broader observations about election 2016 — for example, as I wrote last week, in general, the larger a state's general-election Trump vote, the less likely its residents are to perceive a lot of discrimination in the world, according to data from the Public Religion Research Institute. And another postelection study — co-authored by Schaffner — found a "relatively strong indication that racism and sexism were more important in 2016 than they had been in previous elections."

These are voters that the Democratic Party should not be courting or counting on. There is nothing that Biden or the party is going to do to win over these voters. Appeasing these voters will only alienate the base of the party such as voters who are proud to be Democrats, who approve of President Obama and who are not racists.

I do not feel like appeasing these voters. The only thing that will make these voters happy is the party making sanders the nominee over the objections of 70% of the party
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Indeed he can and he will! Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #1
Well said, Yavin.. Thank YOu! Cha Apr 2020 #2
Honest to god with everything going on this shouldn't even be an issue anymore. Afromania Apr 2020 #3
+1 betsuni Apr 2020 #17
He will win and the left will have less influence...brought it on themselves. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #4
100% of Bernie supporters Mr.Bill Apr 2020 #5
Sanders Exemplifies, Sir, A Peculiar Sort Of Identity Politics The Magistrate Apr 2020 #6
Excellent post, sir. For evidence to support your thesis... Yavin4 Apr 2020 #9
Politics As Indie Music, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #10
Biden will 100% win. BlueLucy Apr 2020 #7
'The Worst Possible Scenario': Never Trumpers Wonder What to Do About Bernie TomCADem Apr 2020 #8
I'm as far left that you can go and for I was for Biden right from the start. Butterflylady Apr 2020 #11
At this point in the primary Sanders is nothing. William769 Apr 2020 #12
Relax, the vast majority of us are enthusiasticly voting blue no matter who. Magoo48 Apr 2020 #13
K&R onetexan Apr 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #15
Of course he can. Every non-incumbent president in history has probably won without getting... thesquanderer Apr 2020 #16
This is why Biden should not given in to Bernie's extortionist demands la-trucker Apr 2020 #18
The sanders supporters who voted for trump in 2016 are mainly racists who hated Obama Gothmog Apr 2020 #19
7% of Sanders supporters say they'd vote for Trump against Biden Gothmog Apr 2020 #20
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