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Sloumeau

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36. I am not sure that "It's all BS" is Amanda Marcotte's bottom line.
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 07:37 PM
Apr 2020

Marcotte wrote the following:

What can be said is that Reade's story is credible and compelling in some important ways, and also comes with a number of troubling red flags.


Marcotte said that Reade's story is credible with red flags--even though Marcotte admits in the article that Salon.com has not been able to confirm that Reade supposedly told her story to two other people right after the alleged event happened. So, how can Marcotte assume that the story is credible when she has no corroboration?

Marcotte talked about the need to proceed carefully on the Reade story. However, Marcotte was the very person who seemed to completely believe Attorney General Barr's take that Trump was completely vindicated based on Barr's 4 pages of nonsense before the final Mueller report was ever released. She then proceeded to write an article about how awful Rachel Maddow was for spending so much time on the Mueller investigation. When it came out that Barr had lied his ass off, did Marcotte ever apologize for going after Maddow as she did? I have never seen it. Personally, I believe that Ms. Marcotte is seriously lacking in her journalistic skills.

Here's my bottom line. One prosecutor who handles sexual assault cases wrote in an article that she believes that about 92%-98% of the people who report sexual assault cases are telling the truth. I agree with those numbers. For example, I believe everyone who said Weinstein assaulted them, and I believe everyone who said Cosby assaulted them. However, that leaves about 2-8% who may not be telling the truth. I believe that Reade probably falls within that area. I believe that Biden in the past was overly friendly with people, both men and women, and has at times not respected people's space. This means that at times he did something like put his hand on someone's shoulder when the person really did not want that. Biden has apparently since learned to keep his hands more to himself. However, I do not believe that he sexually assaulted Ms. Reade.

The thing is, sometimes people lie, both men and women. Most women don't lie about sexual assault, but apparently a few do, including a woman named Aviaon Lee who set a fire in a hotel and then claimed that she was sexually assaulted during the fire. The main way that police realized that she was lying was that she did internet searches on how much hotels have to pay out for sexual assaults before she lit the fire. She later admitted that she made the sexual assault up and started the fire.

https://www.fox5vegas.com/news/crime/las-vegas-police-say-excalibur-employee-set-fire-lied-about/article_0b66e88c-537a-11ea-8a63-07c332a6c758.html]

In a follow-up interview with Lee, the police asked if she would consent to them examining her cell phone which the woman agreed to.

When investigators checked out her phone, they found several internet searches regarding "can you sue hotel job for sexual assault."

After going through all the evidence, police were able to pinpoint a suspect and conducted a third interview with Lee, especially to ask her about the internet searches.

Initially, Lee tried to brush off the searches as something she had been doing to help out her mother-in-law who, according to Lee, had been assaulted while working as housekeeper and she would do that particular type of search whenever they discussed it

But when pressed further, Lee broke down and, according to the report, confessed to having fabricated the entire incident including setting fire to the bed.

Lee was arrested and taken into custody on several charges including arson, burglary and false report of a crime.


Why do a few people do this? I am not completely sure. Police said Aviaon Lee lied for monetary gain. Some men will lie about anything, so I imagine that there is a tiny percentage of women who will do that too. Reade has proclaimed her love for Putin and Bernie. In my opinion, if anyone were going to lie about Biden, it would probably be someone like that. I've seen a mountain of lies from a few extreme Bernie fans, and a mountain of lies from people working for Putin and Russia in the past few years. This, in a addition to the fact that she has changed her story over time, means I have reasonable doubt about her story.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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BS. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #1
George this should be deleted...we should not put this on a Democratic forum...it is undoubtedly Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #2
Really not fit for DU! True Blue American Apr 2020 #3
Amy Goodman. It came to her attention.. busterbrown Apr 2020 #41
The article points out all the fallacies in the story. George II Apr 2020 #4
No... KEEP IT! Knowledge is power! NurseJackie Apr 2020 #9
Good point Jackie...I was wrong maybe...we do have to stand up to them. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #16
One would think this would've come out when all the me_too stories hit the news a couple of years... brush Apr 2020 #28
I feel the same way. William769 Apr 2020 #34
but keeps it going. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #11
It was a good read JustAnotherGen Apr 2020 #14
I disagree. Most of us are running into people spouting off disinformation pnwmom Apr 2020 #29
Agree! Please stop posting this Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #33
Of course it's all BS. It's always been BS. From the very start it was BS. NurseJackie Apr 2020 #5
Anybody that knows Biden Butterflylady Apr 2020 #6
"Probably"? Definitely. marble falls Apr 2020 #7
Old news and... johnnyknj Apr 2020 #8
I'd compare Bidens sexual history vs Trumps any day. Now shut this shit up. Funtatlaguy Apr 2020 #10
The Thing which really bothers me is: busterbrown Apr 2020 #12
Welcome to the next eight years. nt ucrdem Apr 2020 #13
Post removed Post removed Apr 2020 #15
We have facts. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #22
Oh I got ripped up one side and down the other from the Women's March group woodsprite Apr 2020 #35
These people are hypocrites. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #37
I also had issues with their 'vote female whether they're qualified or not'. woodsprite Apr 2020 #39
We Have To Learn Not To Care, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #18
Of course the story is bullshit...Amy went after Warren in an interview and I personally think she Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #21
Amy used to put ex-Bush officials on her show to run down Barack Obama. ucrdem Apr 2020 #26
Yep...she should just be honest...she is not an honest broker and never was. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #44
So Fucked Up.. I use to listen to Amy so religiously.. busterbrown Apr 2020 #43
The timing of this accusation is perfect blue-wave Apr 2020 #17
Please read the article Freddie Apr 2020 #19
Thank You!! busterbrown Apr 2020 #45
it was questionable BGBD Apr 2020 #20
Lots of anti-Democrat trolls constantly promoting this on Facebook LVZ Apr 2020 #23
It was being pushed by Shaun King and Krystal Ball a few days ago, Briahna Gray subtly.... George II Apr 2020 #27
Maybe that's why somebody doubled down on not ending his campaign padah513 Apr 2020 #24
Where is this coming from...obvious,,..it ain't from Bernie, it is from ??Trump!! Stuart G Apr 2020 #25
The story was in the libertarian Intercept, the publication that advocated for pnwmom Apr 2020 #31
Good article. Here's another chunk of the story. hay rick Apr 2020 #30
The Salon article has contradictory elements tirebiter Apr 2020 #32
I am not sure that "It's all BS" is Amanda Marcotte's bottom line. Sloumeau Apr 2020 #36
Summary DenverJared Apr 2020 #38
This won't go away dustyscamp Apr 2020 #40
It will be thoroughly discredited by them la-trucker Apr 2020 #42
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