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The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
34. Always Pleasant To Have My Points Confirmed By An Opponent, Ma'am
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:49 AM
Mar 2020

I should have checked, but your comments conveyed such a blend of arrogance and self-importance and foolishness it never occurred to me they might not be written by a man. In my experience, women display far more intelligence than that, both intellectually and emotionally.

The claim 'you can't read his mind' is one of the more laughable staples of a flailing debater. It is nonesense. Everyone draws conclusions about what another person thinks and intends, from observation of that person's actions, and attention to their words. A few people are such smooth and consummate liars or actors as to be able to maintain a sort of shield over their true mind, but this is a very rare (and very dangerous) quality. It may be dismissed from consideration for ordinary purposes, and there is no reason whatever to suppose Sanders possesses this quality. He would of necessity be a far more supple individual if he did.

'Bernie' has said quite clearly, for years, that he considers the 'Democratic Establishment' the chief obstacle to the advancement of left and progressive causes. He has stated he regards the 'Democratic Establishment' as a hostile force, even within the course of this current campaign. He has stated the two major parties are like tweedledum and tweedledee. He has said explicitly, "I am not, and never have been, a liberal Democrat." It seems only courteous to take him at his word.

Since there is no possibility he will secure the Democratic nomination for President, people must cast about to discern some other reason he continues to campaign nominally for that position. Here we have for guidance his previous behavior, the disruption he superintended at the 2016 convention, and his insistence on securing meaningless changes in the Party platform and rules concerning how the nominee would be chosen in the next campaign, the one we are in the middle of. We have the 'support', lukewarm by the kindest imaginable description, he gave to the Party's nominee in 2016. Together with his known statements, and his long-standing Marxist background (which breaks through in reflexive attempts to defend Castro and Mao, when asked for a simple denunciation of authoritarian regimes), it is clear that 'Bernie' has no interest at all in electoral victory for the Democratic Party, unless he should be its standard bearer, which it is obvious he will not be, and never will be.

'Bernie' runs as a wrecker. His actions assisted this cheap thug Trump in 2016, and can only serve to assist this cheap thug Trump this year as well. When a person persists in actions which can only have one result, others must conclude that the result he achieves is the result he intends, particularly when there has been ample warning of those consequences, and they are so obvious a mere tyro can see their danger at a glance.

The fact is Sanders campaigns not to gain the Democratic Party's nomination for President, but to weaken if not wreck the 'Democratic Establishment'. For 'Bernie', ousting this cheap thug Trump and ending the Republican majority in the Senate is barely an afterthought to this long-standing purpose. Once Sanders' supporters face this fact squarely, they may be able to decide honestly what their best course in this election is: voting against 'Bernie' in any future primary, and for Mr. Biden and Democrats all down the ticket to the lowest office on the ballot come November.

It is probably true that Sanders sees destroying the 'Democratic Establishment' as an essential precondition to defeating this cheap thug Trump et al, and so by his own lights perhaps he means it when he says he will do all he can to defeat this cheap thug Trump. But that belief is so self-serving and delusional it deserves not just scorn but contempt.






"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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And, BS Spent 4x More $$$$ to Lose than Joe Biden did to WIN! Cha Mar 2020 #1
Here's the best on its own.. Cha Mar 2020 #2
Reality Has Endorsed Bernie Sanders Gustavo28M Mar 2020 #42
REALITY HAS REJECTED Sanders and his AGENDA. Cha Mar 2020 #43
All of the voters haven't spoken yet. Paka Mar 2020 #3
Cancelling primaries that will prove nothing isn't sweeping anyone aside and reviling them.... George II Mar 2020 #8
I don't care if my vote doesn't change anything. Paka Mar 2020 #14
Okay, what will your PRIMARY vote mean except for self-satisfaction? George II Mar 2020 #22
And self-satisfaction is a bad thing? Paka Mar 2020 #27
When you're dealing with the health and safety of millions of Americans and.... George II Mar 2020 #33
It is for exactly that reason that valuable voices should not be silenced. Paka Mar 2020 #41
And, it's a Real Mercy Rule.. people are Cha Mar 2020 #16
There are primaries for other offices Sympthsical Mar 2020 #20
Yes there are, and in a number of states those are on different dates. In CT, our primary..... George II Mar 2020 #21
It's not so for every state Sympthsical Mar 2020 #23
Those elections will take place if Sanders drops out. Blue_true Mar 2020 #26
I think Sanders should concede Sympthsical Mar 2020 #35
Like you pointed out, there are local races and location issues that Blue_true Mar 2020 #37
Concession Of Defeat By 'Bernie', Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #9
But Senator Sanders hasn't conceded, Paka Mar 2020 #15
No, Sir, But He Should The Magistrate Mar 2020 #17
The last delagate count I saw, Biden had 1,151. Paka Mar 2020 #28
You Do Understand Simple Arithmetic, Sir, Do You Not? The Magistrate Mar 2020 #29
Men may give up futile gestures. Paka Mar 2020 #32
Always Pleasant To Have My Points Confirmed By An Opponent, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #34
Perhaps DU is the wrong location for me. Paka Mar 2020 #38
Whether You Are Alone In Your Feelings Or Not, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #46
So when do you call it quits? Blue_true Mar 2020 #25
This is no longer about winning the nomination. Paka Mar 2020 #39
Voters are rather clearly saying that they want Biden's prescriptions. Blue_true Mar 2020 #44
I simply believe all rational voices are welcome. Paka Mar 2020 #45
Preach! fallout87 Mar 2020 #31
The attacks do get tiresome. Paka Mar 2020 #40
Bernie Bros are MATH DENIERS LVZ Mar 2020 #4
Rejected? JoeDuck Mar 2020 #5
It always depends on the candidate and situation Hav Mar 2020 #6
No.. the OP got it Exactly right. Cha Mar 2020 #11
Rejection For One Office Is Not Rejection For Another, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #18
perhaps, jaxexpat Mar 2020 #7
Np "perhaps" about it... you can see the results from Cha Mar 2020 #10
Disagree Cha, jaxexpat Mar 2020 #12
Don't care. Facts are Facts and will be no matter how much Cha Mar 2020 #13
Not A Sustainable Line To Press, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #24
Kick! Cha Mar 2020 #19
The primaries are over? No way? fallout87 Mar 2020 #30
Have you seen any elections being held lately? HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #36
How 'Never Bernie' Voters Threw In With Biden and Changed the Primary Gothmog Apr 2020 #47
sanders is trailing by almost 40% Gothmog Apr 2020 #48
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