Democratic Primaries

Gothmog

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72. sanders has attacked the party and establishment Democrats

Mon Mar 30, 2020, 09:00 PM

Mar 2020

sanders wants to remake the Democratic Party into his own image and most of the party have no interest in sanders' vision for the party. I have worked long and hard to turn Texas blue and adoption of sanders vision of the party would kill down ballot candidates. After 2010, there were 101 republicans in the Texas state House compared to 49 Democrats. Due to Beto and demographic shifts, Democrats picked up 12 state house seats in 2018 and now need 9 additional seats. The party is targeting 19 or so state seats including 10 seat that Beto had the majority in.

We flipped two congressional districts and have targeted 7 additional seats. There is a chance that MJ Hegar could flip the Senate seat

If sanders vision for the party was adopted, we would lose Lizzie's and Colin's and give up any chance of picking up any additional seats

I like the current Democratic Party and see no need to remake the party into the image of sanders

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Why Don't Bernie Voters Matter? [View all] qwlauren35 Mar 2020 OP

They want us to beg... showblue22 Mar 2020 #1

They Make Themselves Irrelevant, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #2

Well Said! Tribalceltic Mar 2020 #59

sanders has attacked the party and establishment Democrats Gothmog Mar 2020 #72

I Salute Your Efforts, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #92

We are gearing up for voter protection Gothmog Mar 2020 #102

That Will Doubtless Be Necessary, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #105

The GOP is the party of voter suppression Gothmog Mar 2020 #109

Richard Viguerie Was Making Speeches to This Effect, Sir, In Reagan's Time The Magistrate Mar 2020 #110

Here is a great quote from the founder of the Heritage Foundation Gothmog Mar 2020 #112

Thank You, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #116

I first heard Paul Weyrich's name back in 2004 at a training session in Florida Gothmog Mar 2020 #123

Thank you Gothmog, I'm in Texas and a few things about the TxGOP vote supression. Sunlei Mar 2020 #121

The self-importance of certain of his Bros Ellen Forradalom Mar 2020 #84

You couldn't be more wrong. Jokerman Apr 2020 #163

Thank You For Confirming My Point, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #164

They need to be shamed into submission? Don1 Mar 2020 #3

They Need To Be Prevented From Lending Themselves To Bernie's' Blackmail, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #9

That's not true. Don1 Mar 2020 #14

Yes It Is, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #20

Agree completely Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #27

No Don1 Mar 2020 #124

There Would Be No Point In Merely Repeating Myself, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #135

You are NOT stating facts. Don1 Mar 2020 #141

Your Own Words, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #143

My own words Don1 Mar 2020 #145

Good Luck, And Thank You For The Laugh The Magistrate Mar 2020 #147

How about acknowledging the obvious? OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2020 #79

Well, because Democrats aren't really an alternative to Hortensis Mar 2020 #4

Exactly. nt oasis Mar 2020 #37

+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #40

Sanders also called democrats intellectually bankrupt Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #41

Link please... mikeysnot Mar 2020 #51

You're kidding? Sanders says this stuff in many ways, Hortensis Mar 2020 #95

It Strikes Once Again, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #99

:) You're right. But sometimes I like to shoot down Hortensis Mar 2020 #115

"When advised that his third-party candidacy might result in a Republican victory, ehrnst Apr 2020 #165

His ideas are good and need discussion, but snowybirdie Mar 2020 #5

Don't fall into that trap. His ideas aren't good. dansolo Apr 2020 #162

Nobody's saying that Bernie voters don't matter Nonhlanhla Mar 2020 #6

Why don't Biden voters matter? Why doesn't that fact that Biden has 300 more delegates pnwmom Mar 2020 #7

i am more than willing to unite behind joe but i also have asked for an explanation questionseverything Mar 2020 #45

Incremental change works slowy but surely. comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #50

so what exactly is the public option gonna cost,what will it cover,who will get subsidies, like that questionseverything Mar 2020 #54

Beats me... comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #63

You might find answers to these questions thucythucy Mar 2020 #82

i have read his web site...it is pretty vague questionseverything Mar 2020 #93

I hope you get what you need. qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #52

m4a is medicare on steroids..they just called it medicare because peops were familiar with the term questionseverything Mar 2020 #61

Thanks much. qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #71

Just call them members of a cult. Thats what some people here think works. Rilgin Mar 2020 #83

Ask Elizabeth Warren. She was smart enough to know that Medicare was constructed pnwmom Mar 2020 #103

bernie said it was a step up from medicare questionseverything Apr 2020 #168

Not true. Elizabeth Warren's website went into great detail about her plan pnwmom Apr 2020 #170

you didn't address anything i said questionseverything Apr 2020 #172

Warren doesn't constantly disparage other Democrats or the DNC. pnwmom Apr 2020 #177

i would still love liz to be the vp candidate questionseverything Apr 2020 #178

If Bernie were the candidate we don't know what plan he'd be trying to sell in the general. pnwmom Apr 2020 #179

They Don't VOTE Blue Streak Science Mar 2020 #8

+1 RGinNJ Mar 2020 #10

Had Bernie supporters turned out in 2016 numbers Vogon_Glory Mar 2020 #15

They DO Matter DAngelo136 Mar 2020 #11

Does their "Revolution" have any merit at all? qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #23

well stated questionseverything Mar 2020 #47

The so-called 30% were heard in the primaries already taken place. They didn't prevail. brush Mar 2020 #88

It was heard HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #140

Excellent question. zentrum Mar 2020 #12

They do matter. Just not as much as the majority of voters.Why should the opinions of ... marble falls Mar 2020 #13

Excellent Point, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #19

I am African-American qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #28

You matter to me, qwl35. democrank Mar 2020 #35

You will be heard Hav Mar 2020 #46

You Might Want To Ask Mr. Sanders, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #48

I am... qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #55

My Apologies, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #60

Thank you. jrthin Mar 2020 #64

I find it hard to equate the trevails of the Bernie only's and the struggle of people of ... marble falls Mar 2020 #58

Are you paying the race card? . This African American wants BS to bugger off Dream Girl Mar 2020 #101

Just in case... qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #107

I'm resentful of what you fuckers did to Hillary & John Lewis; we aren't putting up with it now. NBachers Mar 2020 #16

Thank You! Cha Mar 2020 #25

This! MFM008 Mar 2020 #33

I voted for Hillary. qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #34

That Hardly Matters, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #57

Blame Bernie for that broad brush kcr Mar 2020 #68

Me too democrattotheend Mar 2020 #96

I was at the convention Gothmog Mar 2020 #111

Thanks for the education. qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #113

So there you have it, "Bernie" guys........... MyOwnPeace Mar 2020 #36

+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #43

I was there and saw how sanders and his vetted delegates acted Gothmog Mar 2020 #73

I have no words. qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #150

I Appreciate Your Comments, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #161

Then clean up your own yard. Codeine Mar 2020 #128

A majority would love to move forward together Hav Mar 2020 #17

Why do you think they matter more than the majority relayerbob Mar 2020 #18

Yep, its getting pretty sickening for sure and only helps tRump. nt yaesu Mar 2020 #21

Why Don't Biden Voters "Matter".. 'they're the ones who Cha Mar 2020 #22

If Sanders is not nominee, they won't vote or vote Trump. Or, the will be a part of blue wave. LizBeth Mar 2020 #24

Did a review and Sanders' numbers are lower than that. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #26

Thanks for the correction. qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #44

Electing the President is not the sole thing that needs to happen. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #86

Most people work for corporations, most small businesses are even incorporated. brush Mar 2020 #90

I agree. qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #151

How is this helpful? gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #29

Why should Bernie voters matter more MontanaMama Mar 2020 #30

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Skittles Mar 2020 #31

They do, but right now a lot of people are thinking about other things right now. 33taw Mar 2020 #32

Imagine the shoe is on the other foot... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #38

Some of his platform? When asked how his student debt policy was different from Warren's, betsuni Mar 2020 #39

I missed the part where you showed Bernie voters dont matter. Eko Mar 2020 #42

I think it's a feeling I get from being here. qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #49

You have been here longer than I. Eko Mar 2020 #65

They do matter but majority rules. onecaliberal Mar 2020 #53

Some of his platform is being considered but that's not the problem ... TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 #56

OK qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #152

Why do BS voters insist that they matter more than Squinch Mar 2020 #62

To be honest, qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #75

And moving to the left -as defined by BS - was rejected by the vast majority Squinch Mar 2020 #81

My candidate was Warren. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #108

Why don't Biden voters matter? nini Mar 2020 #66

When 15% of Sanders supporters say they will vote for trump if Biden is the nominee still_one Mar 2020 #67

20% to 30% is far less than 80% to 70% in the real world Gothmog Mar 2020 #69

WOW! qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #78

The benefit of the Democrats denouncing Sanders's selfishness Gothmog Apr 2020 #169

Because there's not enough of them? Majority rules. robbedvoter Mar 2020 #70

It's my understanding qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #74

Support Biden and you will be in the majority of the Democratic Party. brush Mar 2020 #91

Every voice HAS been considered. BSs has been considered and REJECTED by the majority. Squinch Mar 2020 #120

Biden will consider/adopt Bernie's issues where can. Skid Rogue Mar 2020 #76

OK qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #80

These voters matter. mikewv Mar 2020 #77

But at the same time Ellen Forradalom Mar 2020 #85

I think Biden supporters thucythucy Mar 2020 #87

Hmm... qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #153

That sounds like a good plan thucythucy Mar 2020 #156

Thanks. qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #158

Nope. stopbush Mar 2020 #89

He lost get over it nt doc03 Mar 2020 #94

It is not a huge percentage...and Sanders never did expand his base...less votes than last time Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #97

Right. I have trashed threads with Sanders LakeArenal Mar 2020 #104

Sanders tried this strategy in 2016 stopdiggin Mar 2020 #98

Good points. qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #154

Biden has already adopted some of Bernie's policies BGBD Mar 2020 #100

You just don't like the answer to your question LakeArenal Mar 2020 #106

Been there. Done it. No interest in repeating it. nt COLGATE4 Mar 2020 #114

Because they have decided we are the enemy for some reason fallout87 Mar 2020 #117

... betsuni Mar 2020 #118

Also, "For some reason." Have you heard the shit coming out against Biden from BS followers? Squinch Mar 2020 #119

Was Elizabeth Warren "status quo"? thucythucy Mar 2020 #133

Why must Bernie voters need to be treated as if they're special? Politicub Mar 2020 #139

In my dreams I'd like to see Biden pick Sanders as VP, because he excluded a male then Hillary! Sunlei Mar 2020 #122

Lotsa answers here and I don;t see many replies from the OP. Shit-stirring? Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #125

Actually, there Have Been Plenty, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #144

I've read them. I see lots of Butwhatabout kinda stuff. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #146

I completely agree with you. qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #157

When you made #bendtheknee your rallying cry Codeine Mar 2020 #126

we tried being nice in 2016 and what did that get us??? beachbumbob Mar 2020 #127

His Platform WILL be considered lees1975 Mar 2020 #129

In Charge Of Anything? Me. Mar 2020 #132

Hmmm.... qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #159

they matter, just not on this board janterry Mar 2020 #130

Just Stop Already Me. Mar 2020 #131

They matter a great deal to themselves. Is this not enough? NNadir Mar 2020 #134

I think a large percentage of Sanders supporters are not really dedicated Democrats. honest.abe Mar 2020 #136

Why would that need to be said at all? MineralMan Mar 2020 #137

To be clear. qwlauren35 Mar 2020 #160

It seems like Bernie or bust voters have a martyr complex Politicub Mar 2020 #138

No one should need to be asked or begged to do their civic duty. nt Kahuna Mar 2020 #142

it depends scrabblequeen40 Mar 2020 #148

At this point? Two words. Tara Reade. n/t nolawarlock Mar 2020 #149

Didn't Bernie get a LOT of say in the 2016 Democratic Party Platform? Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2020 #155

How 'Never Bernie' Voters Threw In With Biden and Changed the Primary Gothmog Apr 2020 #166

Quite True, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #167

In the HUGE blind spot that Sanders has GeorgiaPeanut Apr 2020 #175

A large number of real democrats have very good memories Gothmog Apr 2020 #171

That's not something Sanders supporters were saying about supporters of any other candidate ehrnst Apr 2020 #173

For every lost Bernie voter there are 5 to 10 near the center GeorgiaPeanut Apr 2020 #174

At this point snowybirdie Apr 2020 #176