Democratic Primaries

Gothmog

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40. Thank you for your concern but your advise will and should be ignored

Mon Mar 30, 2020, 08:22 PM

Mar 2020

Most of your advise is wrong and the rest will only help get trump re-elected. In a general election, Biden can not advance a poorly thought out policy such as sanders medicare for all plan without having a plan to pay for it and a way for this plan to be adopted without a magical voter revolution. Again, taking health care from 165 million voters is a sure loser

You do realize that none of sanders agenda could be adopted in the real world even is sanders was the nominee and somehow was elected. I am convinced that if sanders was the nominee, trump would win 45+ states and Kevin McCarthy would be the next Speaker of the House. All of sanders proposals depended on a magical voter revolution that would somehow force the GOP to be reasonable. In the real world sanders has zero significant legislative accomplishments and in the real world no serious candidate relies on a magical voter revolution.

As for TYT and Rogan, are you kidding? These idiots are poison. Heck, AOC ran away from sanders due to the Rogan stupidity. Who pays attention to Cenk and TYT other than JPR posters and 4% of the voters in the race he lost.

Again, thank you for your concern but your advise should be and will be ignored.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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As a Bernie Supporter I think Biden will lose to Trump if he continues to do these steps [View all] Legends303 Mar 2020 OP

How is this helpful? gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #1

It Is Not Meant To Be Helpful, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #6

The sanders campaign is in effect demanding that the rest of the party bend the knee to sanders Gothmog Mar 2020 #124

Nor Do I, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #127

Your concern is duly noted. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #2

The person in the WH is killing us, on purpose, and I guess some folks still demand purity Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #100

The world is on house arrest. Our economy is shut down. A virus is klling us. Yavin4 Mar 2020 #125

AMAZING, isnt it. BTW the woman doctor, forgot her name AND Fauci are lying for rump now Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #157

Your Concern Is Noted, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #3

Well Stated Magistrate leftieNanner Mar 2020 #80

Your concern is noted nt doc03 Mar 2020 #4

It would be smart for him to move towards medicare for all, or at least something where premiums and jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #5

Medicare For All, Sir, Is A Mere Marketing Slogan The Magistrate Mar 2020 #9

I think that medicare for all has had specific practical solutions in both his and Warren's plans. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #11

Professor Warren Had Some Specifics, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #17

For me, if my wife is not paying $30 for a $250 inhaler that she paid a $40 copay to see her doctor jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #25

The Affordable Care Act, Sir, Saved One Life In My Immediate Circle The Magistrate Mar 2020 #33

The ACA, with the medicare expansion is an excellent improvement to the former system we had. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #39

And Much Of That Problem Is Deliberate Sabotage By The Right, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #54

Absolutely agreed on the sabotage part. And how scotus totally undermined any progress at every jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #59

Practical Policies Depend On The Messenger, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #63

Bernie's irrelevant. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #68

Than He Had Better Sit Down, Sir, And Cease Threats Of Blackmail The Magistrate Mar 2020 #71

I haven't paid much attention to Bernie since he lost super tuesday. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #75

I am a Socialist DAngelo136 Mar 2020 #62

Actually, Sir, So Am I The Magistrate Mar 2020 #65

The ACA saved my life also Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #93

I'm so old I remember when M4A/Sanders supporters turned mcar Mar 2020 #70

Not only would that make him less "amenable" to Indies BidenBacker Mar 2020 #14

Medicare for all support however has peaked up substantially since it's lowest point in 2018 -after jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #34

Hope you're right and that we eventually get there as a nation BidenBacker Mar 2020 #46

We can propose policy that benefits more people. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #49

I think that's exactly what Biden will do BidenBacker Mar 2020 #76

His VP will be telling, and indicative of -I think, his performance in the GE. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #78

Possibly BidenBacker Mar 2020 #83

I'm encouraged byt he fact that Biden's GE polling is improving the closer we get to November. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #86

I really believe we'll be fine BidenBacker Mar 2020 #90

First he going to have to reverse the damage to come back up to a workable base line ... Historic NY Mar 2020 #126

I Disagree With You DAngelo136 Mar 2020 #77

Let me clarify BidenBacker Mar 2020 #96

Perhaps if Bernie quit burning the bridges gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #15

I don't care about Bernie. He's most likely irrelevant at this point. The question is what will jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #45

You do understand, don't you, that Medicare only covers 80% thucythucy Mar 2020 #42

That is way better than what a lot of people have right now, anyways. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #47

Possibly, but since Bernie has yet to show us how he intends thucythucy Mar 2020 #60

Bernie is irrelevant. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #67

"Stick with what he has..." thucythucy Mar 2020 #82

I actually like it. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #84

Okay. I guess i misunderstood where you were coming from. thucythucy Mar 2020 #88

My ACA plan is very affordable Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #95

"many," was the operative word in my post. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author Lulu KC Mar 2020 #81

Biden is winning the voters most inclined Aquaria Mar 2020 #107

No, the way to win is to make Trump the issue, not socialism Pompoy Apr 2020 #160

Joe Rogan and TYT??? showblue22 Mar 2020 #7

I saw that too. thucythucy Mar 2020 #44

4%. Lol showblue22 Mar 2020 #72

OMG! thucythucy Mar 2020 #79

It's not a progressive district, for what it's worth Polybius Mar 2020 #150

Young non-voters won't vote at all. We should know this by now. Walleye Mar 2020 #8

A Berniecrat eh? fantase56 Mar 2020 #10

"As a BS supporter" of course you do.. BS & his Agenda LOST Cha Mar 2020 #12

Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #13

+100x bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #23

Hmm. I think you are right. Walleye Mar 2020 #35

Rogan and Cenk can go fuck themselves. NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #16

I'm really trying hard Hav Mar 2020 #18

Any more demands? Get real. PubliusEnigma Mar 2020 #19

Joe Rogan and TYT? LMFAO Galraedia Mar 2020 #20

Reason why I mentioned them they have the largest Liberal audience on the Internet Legends303 Mar 2020 #38

If that's the case why did Cenk's primary run in California bomb the way it did? thucythucy Mar 2020 #51

TYT isn't even on my radar eilen Mar 2020 #132

The Rogan "endorsement" is when Bernie lost AOC. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #57

TYT isn't liberal, it's fauxrogressive. It's audience is largely anti-democrat or conservative Galraedia Mar 2020 #61

How does one know the viewers are liberals? sheshe2 Mar 2020 #118

The thing is they're neither "liberal" nor "progressive". George II Mar 2020 #143

What's your source for those stats? ehrnst Mar 2020 #144

They aren't liberals. NYC Liberal Apr 2020 #161

I am suspicious of English as a Second Language posts /nt bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #21

Straight outa St. Petersburg. B Stieg Mar 2020 #27

So according to what you wrote,Biden has no redeeming values .. CatMor Mar 2020 #22

Don't worry disndat Mar 2020 #24

VP pick Normanart Mar 2020 #123

NTSA. rzemanfl Mar 2020 #26

Stir the pot much? GP6971 Mar 2020 #28

ElizabethWarren embraced "Medicare for All" and it sank her campaign. ucrdem Mar 2020 #29

p.s. Kamala, too, endorsed M4A and that was all she wrote. ucrdem Mar 2020 #122

There won't be any debates. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2020 #30

brave post - thanks Locrian Mar 2020 #31

That's rich Aquaria Mar 2020 #111

Interesting points... Mike Nelson Mar 2020 #32

No one is enthused over Bernie Generic Brad Mar 2020 #36

Thank you! jimlup Mar 2020 #37

Funny how arguing from a position of reason Aquaria Mar 2020 #113

When You Say 'Speak Truth To Power', Sir, Do You Know What Happens? The Magistrate Mar 2020 #116

This is true. "Speaking truth to power" was a perfectly fine expression when used betsuni Mar 2020 #120

Thank you for your concern but your advise will and should be ignored Gothmog Mar 2020 #40

Some of these BSers make me wanna pull my hair out BidenBacker Mar 2020 #41

With respect that is all due.... LakeArenal Mar 2020 #43

well, BGBD Mar 2020 #48

Bernie is the one who needs advice tirebiter Mar 2020 #50

Bernie's campaign took a nose dive about the time Rogen "endorsed" him. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #52

" I know this going to get heat but he needs to convince Liberal personalities such Joe Rogan" kcr Mar 2020 #53

You forget the downright hate of Trump. Dan Mar 2020 #55

From the campaign who appears unable to win the Democratic nomination, giving advice on the GE still_one Mar 2020 #56

As a Biden Supporter, I think you still believe that Senator Sanders is winning by a landslide. NNadir Mar 2020 #58

THE YOUNG TURKS? Me. Mar 2020 #64

Your concern is duly noted. :) nt Sloumeau Mar 2020 #66

Thanks for your concern mcar Mar 2020 #69

Oh, one more thing... NNadir Mar 2020 #73

First: Don't worry about a debate between JB & DT. DT will refuse to do it! Second, Joe is doing napi21 Mar 2020 #74

That would be kinda cool BidenBacker Mar 2020 #87

It won't come to that. Aquaria Mar 2020 #115

Almost zero chance Trump will refuse to debate, he thinks he can destroy Biden in a live one-on-one Celerity Mar 2020 #91

"One of the reasons we lost in 2016 because we had a divided left..." thucythucy Mar 2020 #85

You're entitled to your opinion, most wholeheartedly disagree Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #89

Click away, folks BidenBacker Mar 2020 #92

Responses 1 by 1: UncleNoel Mar 2020 #94

You keep going 5-for-5 BidenBacker Mar 2020 #101

Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #97

what was your GP6971 Mar 2020 #99

Same as this one: Post Removed. Am I psychic or what? marble falls Mar 2020 #102

Yes you are!! GP6971 Mar 2020 #105

It was only fair to ask. He mighta self deleted but he was on the radar all ready. How you been? marble falls Mar 2020 #106

Been good. GP6971 Mar 2020 #108

We're a smaller town with a lot of snowbirds who haven't left and ... marble falls Mar 2020 #112

Ah, Yes, Sir --- What Do You Want On Your Tombstone? The Magistrate Mar 2020 #114

Good to see you again!! GP6971 Mar 2020 #117

Medford, OR? KitSileya Mar 2020 #129

Wisconsin, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #147

Another hit-and-run post. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #103

As if Biden needs advice about winning Aquaria Mar 2020 #104

As a Bernie supporter why are you undecided? Galraedia Mar 2020 #109

I'm undecided but I was always leaning towards Sanders Legends303 Mar 2020 #110

Bernie could not beat Biden...so you are wrong...and he wiped the floor with Bernie during Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #119

LOL! Thanks fir your "concern" Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #121

Agreed with everything you said fallout87 Mar 2020 #128

Losing is hard. Bernie lost. It's over. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #134

It doesn't matter whether or not you think it's over. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #137

First off, by the time this pandemic winds down eilen Mar 2020 #130

are you a russian bot? beachbumbob Mar 2020 #131

I don't think your op is 'helpful' at all, it's devisive to the D party & incorrect about Biden. Sunlei Mar 2020 #133

That's a feature, not a bug. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #138

ostensibly, but "perhaps not really" I agree & it is a hit and run intended to disrupt. Sunlei Mar 2020 #139

As Bernie Supporter, Biden will lose in five easy steps! betsuni Mar 2020 #135

That was pretty bad. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #136

No, Sanders' slimy behaviors and obscure goals are why he's rejected. Hortensis Mar 2020 #140

Younger voters are not going to show up Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #141

M4A didn't inspire youth turnout for Bernie, Codeine Mar 2020 #142

He "still" has positions on "bussing" from the '70's? ehrnst Mar 2020 #145

I have noted your concerns. MineralMan Mar 2020 #146

2020 is a different time and your perception of Biden is inaccurate and off-base lees1975 Mar 2020 #148

Thanks for your concern. What follows is all the consideration I have given your post. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #149

When the primary is over (and by primary I mean Bernie's tantrum)... Poeraria Mar 2020 #151

Polling on Medicare for All tgards79 Mar 2020 #152

And yet Joe had beaten Bernie out the gate, while unifying the party OnDoutside Mar 2020 #153

Stop it already! peggysue2 Mar 2020 #154

Well DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 #155

Do you now? How interesting. MineralMan Mar 2020 #156

... treestar Mar 2020 #158

How 'Never Bernie' Voters Threw In With Biden and Changed the Primary Gothmog Apr 2020 #159