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In reply to the discussion: The Gauzy Myth of the Sanders Campaign [View all]ramen
(862 posts)25. Are we really doing this?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Health_Service
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_and_Social_Care_in_Northern_Ireland
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beveridge_Report this covers the Nordic countries
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_South_Korea
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_healthcare_systems_in_Canada_and_the_United_States
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Taiwan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Germany
That's all the time I have before going to work here, but the point is clear, hopefully. Note the details of how much public vs private funding makes up each country's system, and especially note cost of healthcare as expressed by portion of GDP. Said another way: note that the lower few countries on this list of links do incorporate private insurance but in a far, far more intelligently and compassionately limited way than we do in this country.
I simply have never heard an argument about how the current health care system in this country is A) worth it compared to more modern approach consistent with economically powerful western countries, B) a more efficient use of the money it costs here at an UNBELIEVABLE 17.7 PERCENT of GDP but wherein medical bankruptcy is not rare with serious diseases or simply bad luck about what town you are in when you have a serious and urgent medical event, let alone all the more sadly boring examples of insufficient access to care, or C) unattainable by enough people in this country.
Hell, let's drop your vaunted Switzerland's numbers in to compare: with their compulsory purchase of private health insurance, they are the second highest in the WORLD. Want to guess which country they are second to?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_and_Social_Care_in_Northern_Ireland
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beveridge_Report this covers the Nordic countries
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_South_Korea
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_healthcare_systems_in_Canada_and_the_United_States
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Taiwan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Germany
That's all the time I have before going to work here, but the point is clear, hopefully. Note the details of how much public vs private funding makes up each country's system, and especially note cost of healthcare as expressed by portion of GDP. Said another way: note that the lower few countries on this list of links do incorporate private insurance but in a far, far more intelligently and compassionately limited way than we do in this country.
I simply have never heard an argument about how the current health care system in this country is A) worth it compared to more modern approach consistent with economically powerful western countries, B) a more efficient use of the money it costs here at an UNBELIEVABLE 17.7 PERCENT of GDP but wherein medical bankruptcy is not rare with serious diseases or simply bad luck about what town you are in when you have a serious and urgent medical event, let alone all the more sadly boring examples of insufficient access to care, or C) unattainable by enough people in this country.
Hell, let's drop your vaunted Switzerland's numbers in to compare: with their compulsory purchase of private health insurance, they are the second highest in the WORLD. Want to guess which country they are second to?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Exactly. They want to call it communism, but is it that much different than The New Deal?
rickyhall
Mar 2020
#13
Yup. How could we take him seriously as a candidate? How naive, if not outright foolish
KPN
Mar 2020
#16
Democrats seem to be more objective and vote for proven performance, Joe had that imperfectly in
uponit7771
Mar 2020
#23
Sanders' agenda: Its cost -- possibly $60 trillion -- would set a peacetime US record - CNNPolitics
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#22
LOL-the real world is a nice place and sanders cannot pay for his program in the real world
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#30
Cool, ok, so the talking-past-repliers behavior is not an exception but is your rule
ramen
Mar 2020
#36
sanders ad was rated false and is bogus given sanders proposed Social Security cuts
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#40