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In reply to the discussion: The Gauzy Myth of the Sanders Campaign [View all]Gothmog
(168,483 posts)24. Switzerland rejects single-payer in landslide, keeps its version of Obamacare
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Swiss voters resoundingly rejected a proposal to move the country to a single-payer system on Sunday. Instead, the country will keep its private health insurance system, which looks a whole lot like Obamacare.
Two-thirds of Swiss voters opposed creating a state-run health plan in the national referendum. The issue was put to a vote after Swiss campaigners gathered more than 100,000 signatures, the threshold for getting a national vote; some initial polls in 2013 had shown strong support for a state-run system.
For a country with a relatively small population (8 million), Switzerland comes up a shocking amount in debates over American health care. That's probably because the Swiss health care system looks pretty similar to the one Obamacare sets up.
Since 1996, Switzerland has required all residents purchase coverage through an individual mandate. "If you move to Switzerland, you have three months to buy coverage and it's retroactive to your arrival," Aaron Carroll explains in his excellent video primer on the Swiss health care system.
Swiss residents buy coverage from private health insurance plans, who compete for their business. The average monthly premium for adults, in American dollars, was $329 in 2013. There are no pre-existing conditions in Switzerland; insurers are only allowed to vary premiums based on age, charging different rates for children under 18, young adults between 19 and 25, and adults over 25.
Two-thirds of Swiss voters opposed creating a state-run health plan in the national referendum. The issue was put to a vote after Swiss campaigners gathered more than 100,000 signatures, the threshold for getting a national vote; some initial polls in 2013 had shown strong support for a state-run system.
For a country with a relatively small population (8 million), Switzerland comes up a shocking amount in debates over American health care. That's probably because the Swiss health care system looks pretty similar to the one Obamacare sets up.
Since 1996, Switzerland has required all residents purchase coverage through an individual mandate. "If you move to Switzerland, you have three months to buy coverage and it's retroactive to your arrival," Aaron Carroll explains in his excellent video primer on the Swiss health care system.
Swiss residents buy coverage from private health insurance plans, who compete for their business. The average monthly premium for adults, in American dollars, was $329 in 2013. There are no pre-existing conditions in Switzerland; insurers are only allowed to vary premiums based on age, charging different rates for children under 18, young adults between 19 and 25, and adults over 25.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Exactly. They want to call it communism, but is it that much different than The New Deal?
rickyhall
Mar 2020
#13
Yup. How could we take him seriously as a candidate? How naive, if not outright foolish
KPN
Mar 2020
#16
Democrats seem to be more objective and vote for proven performance, Joe had that imperfectly in
uponit7771
Mar 2020
#23
Sanders' agenda: Its cost -- possibly $60 trillion -- would set a peacetime US record - CNNPolitics
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#22
LOL-the real world is a nice place and sanders cannot pay for his program in the real world
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#30
Cool, ok, so the talking-past-repliers behavior is not an exception but is your rule
ramen
Mar 2020
#36
sanders ad was rated false and is bogus given sanders proposed Social Security cuts
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#40