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eilen

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75. I remember being in my mid 20s and
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:59 AM
Mar 2020

the cost of car insurance and a car loan was high. Also, the pay was very very low. Our rent for a one bedroom apartment in the Hudson Valley was $875/month and we had no furniture. One Thanksgiving we ate turkey loaf ends from the deli I worked in. We had one car and I walked to work and we racked up credit card debt in car repairs. I had student loans then and made about $6/hr. There was no chance of moving in with parents. I went to secretarial school with student loans to get a better job that ended up paying $2/more an hour but felt it might lead to more predictable guaranteed hours. I also did extra work as a server at banquets/weddings for a $50 + tips a few times a month.

When we bought a house (in my early 30s), our mortgage rate (in 1998) FHA was 8.4% and that was considered low. We closed right before Labor Day weekend. In late October, we turned on our furnace and it died 2 weeks later. We were broke ass broke. We refinanced to a 15 year mortgage 10 years later at 5%.

Mostly, I think people make mistakes financially but it should not be the responsibility of the government (the rest of us) to bail you out. It is about being responsible. I think liberals are responsible, thoughtful people. It's one thing to provide equal opportunity for the poor. Most of these young people making such large debt are not "poor", they come from middle to upper middle class families who engage in magical thinking, who are not exactly people with a lived experience of having their power cut off or just $40 to feed a family for the week. They are comfortable. I think financial lessons happen either early or late and the late ones are harder. I also think most colleges charge too much money and if people would stop signing up and borrowing to pay them, they would have to reduce their tuition to be competitive for students.

We have a local university that now charges more than $50K/year for tuition. I am sure it is a wonderful school but it is either a wealthy or stupid person that majors in social work there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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electing sanders would have done nothing for his debt AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #1
Bernie convinced them.... SergeStorms Mar 2020 #2
Getting these things enacted by Congress will be the problem, not paying for them. sop Mar 2020 #55
His debt was largely run up during the early 2010's rpannier Mar 2020 #3
$100K for nursing school... Really? eilen Mar 2020 #4
In my daughter's case hospital were definitely not paying the final two years exboyfil Mar 2020 #7
My student loans are a fraction of that morillon Mar 2020 #69
I went to a private (hospital school) 2 year RN program eilen Mar 2020 #72
Exactly. Has he heard of Congress? treestar Mar 2020 #9
Been there, done that elias7 Mar 2020 #5
Not entirely fair exboyfil Mar 2020 #8
too bad these very people didn't support Hillary in 2016, she would have had beachbumbob Mar 2020 #6
+1 MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #31
Some Folks Abuse Student Loans - Who Borrows $100,000 for a Nursing Degree? Indykatie Mar 2020 #10
College is very expensive now. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #11
I have not seen anyone addressing why the costs are so high MichMan Mar 2020 #17
It is a combination of factors exboyfil Mar 2020 #21
With technology the actual cost of delivering education should be lower, much lower Yavin4 Mar 2020 #56
I'll take a crack at it. llmart Mar 2020 #22
Point number two for me above exboyfil Mar 2020 #27
The nursing school at my employer... llmart Mar 2020 #35
Yes my daughter's school was also mostly women exboyfil Mar 2020 #38
Sounds like she's a very dedicated person to her profession. llmart Mar 2020 #61
My daughter really loves working with mental health patients exboyfil Mar 2020 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author exboyfil Mar 2020 #28
A young Lifeguard at the Y True Blue American Mar 2020 #52
Not everyone Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #53
You do not get Scholarships True Blue American Mar 2020 #59
Not everyone Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #62
I agree with that. True Blue American Mar 2020 #63
I'm not criticizing good students. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #65
And I agreed with you. True Blue American Mar 2020 #66
Ok, we agree then. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #67
See my post above $42K for a 15 month BSN degree exboyfil Mar 2020 #20
I took community college classes eilen Mar 2020 #73
My daughter's program was comparable in cost to an RN to BSN at Kaplan (Purdue Global) exboyfil Mar 2020 #77
I can't speak to the educational opportunities in Iowa eilen Mar 2020 #78
I met no difference in what BS degree exboyfil Mar 2020 #80
My Brother in law is a Dr mercuryblues Mar 2020 #34
well written article-those mired in debt should understand repubs are not their Savior Sunlei Mar 2020 #12
"Nothing to lose"? Boy, is he ignorant. Just what did he study? Hortensis Mar 2020 #13
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #15
Terrible insult; but worse, bizarrely wrong. Trumpsters WANT fascism. Hortensis Mar 2020 #16
I suggest you self-delete this personal insult, then reread the post. yardwork Mar 2020 #18
A lot of judgment going on in this thread. Sad to see on DU ms liberty Mar 2020 #14
Yes so sad mountain grammy Mar 2020 #23
Ridiculous. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #36
Yes I have mountain grammy Mar 2020 #40
I notice a very authoritarian bent. It is not coming only from the Sander camp delisen Mar 2020 #76
I first started posting in 2003... Fix The Stupid Mar 2020 #33
DU is not different Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #37
Who are those "paid propagandists?" MineralMan Mar 2020 #39
Is this the kind of "paid propagandists" you're talking about? Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #48
Mrs. Michelz can have her debt forgiven as it is now NYMinute Mar 2020 #19
There are also other programs for loan forgiveness for nurses. llmart Mar 2020 #24
" he is the rare political leader who has both diagnosed the source.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #25
We sure have a lot of "experts" here mountain grammy Mar 2020 #26
Stunning lack of empathy on display Bettie Mar 2020 #29
Yes, stunning. mountain grammy Mar 2020 #30
The party's platform Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #42
Did you read the replies to this post? Bettie Mar 2020 #44
Some random people Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #46
I try not to Judge True Blue American Mar 2020 #58
We should all try not to judge mountain grammy Mar 2020 #68
I can assure True Blue American Mar 2020 #70
Some are better at perseverance mountain grammy Mar 2020 #71
the guy in the story didn't have solid parenting, grew up in chaos, also ambulance bill Demovictory9 Mar 2020 #81
You're not in a concentration camp CanonRay Mar 2020 #32
Weren't we all financially strapped at 29? frazzled Mar 2020 #41
Sure people Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #45
You may not have noticed that GOPers have caused income to lag. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #49
I remember being in my mid 20s and eilen Mar 2020 #75
Affordable college, effective health care, a decent level of income equality - Europeans have them. pampango Mar 2020 #43
We must continue Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #47
But not everyone goes to uni in Europe. EllieBC Mar 2020 #50
Granted they have a different approach to college education. How about income equality, health care, pampango Mar 2020 #51
If I'm not mistaken, Wisconsin has some decent college grants, free tuition programs, etc. Hoyt Mar 2020 #54
A lot of the younger generation seem to be unaware Rorey Mar 2020 #57
Bernie is speaking now. True Blue American Mar 2020 #60
"I wouldn't say I'm left or liberal...." Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #74
"Weary of Debt at 29"? I had debt from the time I entered college until about five years ago.... George II Mar 2020 #79
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