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42. You still need a bill from Congress

Fri Mar 6, 2020, 09:42 AM

Mar 2020

"Fighting" for it won't get it. Any politician's "promises" are just that, saying they will sign the bill or vote for it. But they could be in the minority. That is fine, but people don't realize that and then claim the politician is "corrupt" or a let-down because it didn't actually happen.

Also those who vote for Biden/Hillary or whoever are not thinking that they will be fighting for the wealthy and the corporations. That is oversimplification at its finest.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie isn't promising the moon. He's promising to *fight for* the moon. [View all] DanTex Feb 2020 OP

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #1

sanders' agenda is dependent on a magical voter revolution that I would love to understand Gothmog Feb 2020 #18

Yes, I appreciate this OP. n/t Mister Ed Mar 2020 #77

And he's betting Uranus on it. (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2020 #2

... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #3

BoOoOoOoOoM! Best line of the week. I needed that laugh. George II Feb 2020 #11

... FreepFryer Feb 2020 #12

. empedocles Mar 2020 #78

... betsuni Feb 2020 #16

BURN! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #25

hahahaha NCProgressive Mar 2020 #48

Yeah, his detractors are flat-out clueless. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #4

LOL Skittles Feb 2020 #5

Could he do that from the moon, though? Hav Feb 2020 #6

In decades of speeches he railed against banks and financial industry. blm Feb 2020 #7

Good analogy with Neil Armstrong. dawg day Mar 2020 #27

Heh. blm Mar 2020 #35

Don't tell me you're fighting for anything The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #8

In other words its like how after a rumor that a Walmart store might be closing and they release a cstanleytech Mar 2020 #21

Yes, and the question is, what are the "moderates" promising to fight for? Magoo48 Feb 2020 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Feb 2020 #10

Fighting doesn't mean anything frazzled Feb 2020 #13

But what will he fight for? Colo indy Mar 2020 #30

Biden has fought for UHC - what do you think the ACA was? ehrnst Mar 2020 #59

Okay, say you're dying of thirst frazzled Mar 2020 #70

+10000 ehrnst Mar 2020 #82

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #68

How come his state Of Vermont didn't buy what he's selling? Historic NY Feb 2020 #14

Can he also *fight for* eradicating mosquitoes, forgiveness of all credit card debt and mortages, ehrnst Feb 2020 #15

Sanders has been pushing something he knew day one could not be passed Gothmog Feb 2020 #17

Aren't you just saying what the op conceded? LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #54

How does magical voter revolutions work? Gothmog Mar 2020 #57

Yup, that's what the OP conceded. LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #58

Again, I never took sanders to be a serious candidate and do not understand his appeal Gothmog Mar 2020 #73

You live in the real world huh? LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #83

Hillary explains why I and other never took sanders seriously Gothmog Mar 2020 #79

I've read her oppo research. LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #84

Warren calling Bernie Sanders a massive failure. Fails to get things passed, Gothmog Feb 2020 #19

There are two Post Offices that would say you're wrong ! OnDoutside Mar 2020 #24

Sanders has yet to explain how he'll pay for half of his agenda Gothmog Mar 2020 #20

There's no such thing as "fighting", though. It's just something online people made up. Recursion Mar 2020 #22

It's a metaphor. DanTex Mar 2020 #28

And it's a very bad one Recursion Mar 2020 #34

At worst, it's an unproven one. DanTex Mar 2020 #36

When did Joe say "nothing would fundamentally change" if he became president? ehrnst Mar 2020 #63

Here... DanTex Mar 2020 #64

My Goodness, we do get testy when asked to back up one's statements... ehrnst Mar 2020 #67

+ 1 billion treestar Mar 2020 #43

It's a bumper sticker. Again. LanternWaste Mar 2020 #39

+1, I wish they would ... shit, I think Warren could whoop Trumps azz uponit7771 Mar 2020 #69

He is promising a bunch of free stuff that no one has to pay for dsc Mar 2020 #23

Love Bernie janterry Mar 2020 #26

LOL! Yes, we're just pretending. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #29

Exactly! treestar Mar 2020 #44

How he proposes to stop the GOP from obstructing: betsuni Mar 2020 #31

"Ridiculous. Come on. " -- Yes. Exactly. Thank you. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #32

I'm so relieved the American people are sick of this shit. betsuni Mar 2020 #37

I don't want a President who's constantly holding rallies. LisaM Mar 2020 #56

K&R!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #33

He s promising to tax like Jupiter grantcart Mar 2020 #38

Bernie may not win the entire war but please remember in 2ish years when we have Sunlei Mar 2020 #40

If they have the senate majority, I can assure you, it will be very easy for them to obstruct. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #81

Yours being the insulting behavior you consistently point to as "how is this winning over voters"? LanternWaste Mar 2020 #41

You still need a bill from Congress treestar Mar 2020 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #45

Bernie is a great candidate if, and only if... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #46

++++++ NCProgressive Mar 2020 #50

Actually I do understand it ismnotwasm Mar 2020 #47

Fighting for the unattainable and undeliverable NCProgressive Mar 2020 #49

I still want THE WHOLE CHICKEN! Laelth Mar 2020 #51

Switzerland rejects single-payer in landslide, keeps its version of Obamacare Gothmog Mar 2020 #87

Ha ha ha. nycbos Mar 2020 #52

A hard pass from me for so many reasons amuse bouche Mar 2020 #53

Achieving things in government requires incremental steps towards success. 33taw Mar 2020 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #60

Everything for free, vote for me! MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #61

LOL awesomerwb1 Mar 2020 #62

Exactly democrattotheend Mar 2020 #65

The term "fight for" when used by politician Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #66

The Democratic leadership should fight for Medicare for All and the Green New Deal. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #71

But it comes across as bribery...offering free stuff in exchange for a vote. unitedwethrive Mar 2020 #72

Pass that on to the voters and see how they respond... brooklynite Mar 2020 #74

We're not electing a Dreamer-in-Chief. highplainsdem Mar 2020 #75

FYI Bernie is not going to be the nominee nor the President Botany Mar 2020 #76

we need no fighting we need actual stuff done, exactly what sanders fails to get done beachbumbob Mar 2020 #80

From day 1, Bernie built a campaign to appeal to 30%. Gothmog Mar 2020 #85

The Gauzy Myth of the Sanders Campaign Gothmog Mar 2020 #86

Sanders hs failed Skidmore Mar 2020 #88

So Bernie is saying he will talk the talk but not actually walk the walk. Vivienne235729 Mar 2020 #89